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« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2008, 11:04:35 AM »

Contrary to your belief, Fannie and Freddie weren't the cause of this mess... Funny how you ALWAYS seem to leave out THE real players... Morgan Stanley, Barclays, Merrill Lynch, Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse, RBS, Countrywide, JP Morgan, Bank of China Ltd, Citigroup, Countywide, New Century, Option One, Fremont, Washington Mutual, First Franklin, RFC, Lehman Brothers, WMC Mortgage, Ameriquest .. just to name a few.... notice how the "color" of the argument changes once you focus on the real players... And all you can name is Fannie and Freddie?Huh? You're bent on pining this thing on the "undeserved"  and then the next day it's the "underserved"...  Roll Eyes

Puleeeze.... See, you should stop watching Fox News for one Sunday and see how many brain cells actually regenerate...

Here's a primer you should read BEFORE honking your horn for the Short-Bus Express....

Everything you ever wanted to know about the mortgage meltdown but were afraid to ask.  (cut and pasted - full article altered for space reasons by me)
 
The Conservative Origins of the Sub-Prime Mortgage Crisis
John Atlas and Peter Dreier | December 18, 2007 

Hardly a day goes by without a news story about the accelerating number of foreclosures, an economic tsunami that is causing chaos in the housing and stock markets, the banking industry, and the global money markets, not to mention upending families and neighborhoods. Business leaders, activist groups, and Democratic presidential candidates are calling for our government to do something before the situation declines even further. The problem is worsening in every part of the country, but two early primary states -- Florida and Nevada -- are among the hardest hit.
The crescendo of criticism recently pushed President George W. Bush to announce a plan to freeze interest rates for up to five years for some homeowners who purchased homes with high-risk adjustable rate mortgages (ARMs) that are scheduled to be "reset" at higher rates, in many cases, by hundreds of dollars a month.

The Republican candidates for president generally supported the Bush plan but were reluctant to call for further regulations to protect borrowers...."Wall Street has made billions and now they're hardly paying anything at all" for their role in the sub-prime crisis.

Bush, who once touted his administration's goal as creating an "ownership society," may now go down in history as the president on whose watch ownership declined. The nation's homeownership rate has fallen during the last two years and will plummet further next year. Moreover, Bush's unwillingness to take bold steps to regulate lenders, brokers, and investors will guarantee that the next president will inherit a much bigger mortgage mess.

To many Americans, the crisis seems too complex to comprehend. To understand it, we need to know: What is the problem? Who benefited? Who got hurt? Who is to blame? Who should we help? What should be done? Although the immediate cause is the widespread use of sub-prime mortgages, the root cause is a decades old failure of government to adequately regulate the banking industry.

What Is Sub-Prime Lending?

Sub-prime lending is a fancy financial term for high-interest loans to people who would otherwise be considered too risky for a conventional loan. These include middle-class families who have accumulated too much debt and low-income working families who want to buy a home in the inflated housing market. To cover their risk, lenders charge such borrowers higher-than-conventional interest rates. Or they make "adjustable rate" loans, which offer low initial interest rates that jump sharply after a few years. Only a decade ago, sub-prime loans were rare. But starting in the mid-1990s, sub-prime lending began surging; these loans comprised 8.6 percent of all mortgages in 2001, soaring to 20.1 percent by 2006. Since 2004, more than 90 percent of the sub-prime mortgages came with exploding adjustable rates.

With interest rates low, housing prices on a steady rise, and practically no government regulation, mortgage finance companies devised high-interest, high-fee schemes to entice families to take out loans that traditional savings banks would not make. Many of the lenders were legitimate operations providing a market for credit-risky people. But there also were huge corporations, such as Household Finance, that sought extraordinary profits through unsavory means, called predatory loans. Not subject to government regulation, they bent the rules, lowering normal banking standards.

Mortgage brokers, the street hustlers of the lending world, often used mail solicitations and ads that shouted, "Bad Credit? No Problem!" "Zero Percent Down Payment!" to find people who were closed out of homeownership, or homeowners who could be talked into refinancing. They seduced millions of people into signing on the dotted line. Although sub-prime lending has been concentrated in minority and low-income urban areas, it has spread to the middle-class suburbs.

The sub-prime lenders didn't hold on to these loans. Instead, they sold them -- and the risk -- to investment banks and investors who considered these high interest rate, sub-prime loans a goldmine. By 2007, the sub-prime business had become a $1.5 trillion global market for investors seeking high returns.....

Who Benefited and Who Got Hurt?

Mortgage brokers, who occupy an unregulated niche of the lending world, made a commission for every borrower they handed over to a mortgage lender. These brokers are like the drug dealers on the street corner. They are the smallest link in a lending chain that includes some of the largest and most respectable Wall Street firms.

Large mortgage finance companies and banks made big bucks on sub-prime loans. Last year, 10 lenders -- Countywide, New Century, Option One, Fremont, Washington Mutual, First Franklin, RFC, Lehman Brothers, WMC Mortgage, and Ameriquest -- accounted for 59 percent of all sub-prime loans, totaling $284 billion.

Wall Street investment firms set up special investment units, bought the sub-prime mortgages from the lenders, bundled them into "mortgage-backed securities," and for a fat fee sold them to wealthy investors around the world. According to The New York Times, China's second-largest bank, Bank of China Ltd, held almost $9.7 billion of securities backed by U.S. sub-prime loans. These investors, who bought the collateralized securities, were happy as long as they got paid their higher interest on the bonds or other investments.

With the bottom falling out of the sub-prime market, more than 80 mortgage companies went under in the past six months. Major Wall Street firms took billion-dollar losses as the crisis ripped into foreign money markets, from London to Shanghai. Lehman Brothers underwrote $51.8 billion in securities backed by sub-prime loans in 2006 alone; as of September, 20 percent of those loans were in default, the Times reported. Similarly, about one-fifth of the sub-prime loans packaged by Morgan Stanley, Barclays, Merrill Lynch, Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse, RBS, Countrywide, JP Morgan, and Citigroup are 60 or more days delinquent, in foreclosure, or involve homes that have already been repossessed.

The executives and officers of some mortgage finance companies cashed out before the market crashed. The poster boy is Angelo Mozilo, the CEO of Countrywide Financial, the largest sub-prime lender. He made more than $270 million in profits selling stocks and options from 2004 to the beginning of 2007. And the three founders of New Century Financial, the second largest sub-prime lender, together realized $40 million in stock-sale profits between 2004 and 2006. Paul Krugman reported in The New York Times that last year the chief executives of Merrill-Lynch and Citigroup were paid $48 million and $25.6 million, respectively.

The hardest hit are the innocent borrowers of sub-prime loans. Many of them are working- and middle-class families who fell victim to the country's economic squeeze, a hardship not of their own doing but a symptom of the Bush years. They faced layoffs, stagnant wages, and rising costs of home heating, gasoline, utilities, food, and child care. For those without health insurance, one serious medical problem wiped out their savings. At a time when soaring housing prices were out of whack with the rest of the economy, sub-prime loans were the only way they could purchase a home. But when they could no longer keep up their mortgage payments, they had no safety net. They began skipping their monthly mortgage payments, especially after the adjustable-rate mortgages kicked in with higher interest rates, as high as a 30 percent spike for some borrowers.....

Those who deserve our greatest sympathy are the victims of predatory lending, a segment of the sub-prime market that involves deceptive practices by lenders, as well as unconscionable high fees and interest rates, sometimes running well over 22 percent. Predatory lenders range from sleazy operators in the financial netherworld to mainstream financial institutions like Household Finance. These lenders typically have salespeople who hound vulnerable families for months, soliciting and encouraging them to take out a loan to buy a house or refinance. Borrowers are charged hidden high fees, labeled with confusing terms like "discount points," suggesting that the fees will lower the interest rates, which they don't.

Predatory loans sometimes involve a conspiracy between loan agents and unscrupulous home-improvement contractors, as well as appraisers who inflate the value of a house so that families will borrow more than the houses are really worth. Predatory mortgages often include last-minute, hidden second mortgages. Using bait-and-switch tactics, predatory lenders tout low interest rates in ads targeting the elderly and residents of low-income, working-class, and minority neighborhoods, without explaining the actual interest rates or that adjustable-rate mortgages mean that the rates will increase.

Borrowers are enticed with deals that require them to pay little or nothing down. The unscrupulous lenders approve borrowers for loans even if they've recently been bankrupt or don't have sufficient income to keep up the payments. These lenders don't document an applicant's ability to pay back a loan. They often just accept the borrower's word about his income and expenses. "You could be dead and get a loan," a mortgage broker told Holden Lewis of Bankrate.com, a leading Web source for financial rate information.

Predatory lenders turn lending logic on its head. Instead of cautiously making loans to people who can repay them, they get their money by lending to people who are unable to repay. The loans are structured to guarantee failure. Predatory lenders get borrowers to agree to an adjustable-rate mortgage without explaining how it works, including the big bump in rates with a few years after taking out the loan. Borrowers suckered by predatory lenders often wind up having a monthly mortgage payment that is more than half their income. A predatory loan is often for more than the value of the house. The victims of predatory loans frequently don't realize they've been snookered until they're about to lose their homes.
Not all sub-prime borrowers are innocent victims.

Some were speculators themselves, seeking to profit from the real estate housing bubble, and had their eyes wide open. They expected to rent their houses or quickly "flip" them to another buyer in a rising housing market. Others were simply living dangerously above their means, taking on too much debt and occupying houses that, by any reasonable standard, they couldn't really afford. These borrowers should live with the consequences of their behavior, not be rewarded with any help.

Where Do We Go from Here?

What should government do to address this crisis? Public officials need to distinguish legitimate sub-prime lenders from the scam artists who engage in predatory lending. ...

Government needs to help the victims of predatory lenders who are at risk of losing their homes, but it must also adopt preventative measures to stop the crisis from getting worse and prevent it from happening again. Congress should enact legislation to protect victims of predatory loans from foreclosure. The victims should have a right to a nonprofit loan counselor or lawyer who can help them renegotiate the loan or sue banks, including big Wall Street firms, for violations of state and federal consumer protection laws. Indeed, Congress should require lenders to restructure predatory loans and provide more funding to nonprofit groups that help homeowners renegotiate loans.

This is a bailout for failed regulatory oversight. Infectious greed and malfeasance by lending institutions is the overwhelming culprit, not consumer misbehavior."

These activist groups have made some headway, but without a federal mandate they have to rely on protest and other threats to get banks to cooperate. .. Advocates say that the Miller-Sanchez bill could help as many as 600,000 homeowners avoid foreclosure, but the Mortgage Bankers Association is fighting the legislation.

Looking forward, we need the federal government to be a lending-industry watchdog, not a lapdog. Step one is to stop predatory lending...

Congress should simply outlaw adjustable-rate mortgages, which basically ask borrowers to treat their home mortgages like stocks, just like Bush wants to turn Social Security into individual accounts that people can invest, and risk losing their retirement savings.

Congress should also ban private lenders and brokers from issuing sub-prime loans of any kind. Instead, the focus should be on strengthening nonprofit lending institutions to serve the credit needs of high-risk borrowers. Like the old savings-and-loan (S&L) companies, these nonprofit lenders are highly regulated and devoted entirely to helping people purchase homes with transparent, stable loans.

Nonprofit lenders actually do better than their for-profit counterparts.... These NHS borrowers don't have the same mortgage problems as sub-prime borrowers in private sector. In fact, NHS' delinquency rate is only 3.34 percent -- well below the national rate of 14.5 percent for sub-prime loans in the private sector. The same is true for foreclosures. Only one half of one percent of NHS loans went into foreclosure during the second quarter of 2007, one fifth the foreclosure rate (2.45 percent) among private lenders.

NHS succeeds for two reasons. It has an effective mortgage education program carried out by its own loan counselors. It requires every borrower to participate in its counseling program before and after a loan is made. Moreover, and importantly, NHS makes no adjustable interest rates loans.

And It All Started with Deregulation

There was a time, not too long ago, when Washington did regulate banks. The Depression triggered the creation of government bank regulations and agencies, such as the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Federal Home Loan Bank System, Homeowners Loan Corporation, Fannie Mae, and the Federal Housing Administration, to protect consumers and expand homeownership. After World War II, until the late 1970s, the system work. The savings-and-loan industry was highly regulated by the federal government, with a mission to take people's deposits and then provide loans for the sole purpose of helping people buy homes to live in. Washington insured those loans through the FDIC, provided mortgage discounts through FHA and the Veterans Administration, created a secondary mortgage market to guarantee a steady flow of capital, and required S&Ls to make predictable 30-year fixed loans. The result was a steady increase in homeownership and few foreclosures.

In the 1970s, when community groups discovered that lenders and the FHA were engaged in systematic racial discrimination against minority consumers and neighborhoods -- a practice called "redlining" -- they mobilized and got Congress, led by Wisconsin Senator William Proxmire, to adopt the Community Reinvestment Act and the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act, which together have significantly reduced racial disparities in lending.

But by the early 1980s, the lending industry used its political clout to push back against government regulation. In 1980, Congress adopted the Depository Institutions Deregulatory and Monetary Control Act, which eliminated interest-rate caps and made sub-prime lending more feasible for lenders. The S&Ls balked at constraints on their ability to compete with conventional banks engaged in commercial lending. They got Congress -- Democrats and Republicans alike -- to change the rules, allowing S&Ls to begin a decade-long orgy of real estate speculation, mismanagement, and fraud. The poster child for this era was Charles Keating, who used his political connections and donations to turn a small Arizona S&L into a major real estate speculator, snaring five Senators (the so-called "Keating Five," including John McCain) into his web of corruption.

The stable neighborhood S&L soon became a thing of the past. Banks, insurance companies, credit card firms and other money-lenders were now part of a giant "financial services" industry, while Washington walked away from its responsibility to protect consumers with rules, regulations, and enforcement. Meanwhile, starting with Reagan, the federal government slashed funding for low-income housing, and allowed the FHA, once a key player helping working-class families purchase a home, to drift into irrelevancy.

Into this vacuum stepped banks, mortgage lenders, and scam artists, looking for ways to make big profits from consumers desperate for the American Dream of homeownership. They invented new "loan products" that put borrowers at risk. Thus was born the sub-prime market.

At the heart of the crisis are the conservative free market ideologists whose views increasingly influenced American politics since the 1980s, and who still dominate the Bush administration. They believe that government is always the problem, never the solution, and that regulation of private business is always bad. Lenders and brokers who fell outside of federal regulations made most of the sub-prime and predatory loans.

Those who profited handsomely from the sub-prime market and predatory lending, the mortgage bankers and brokers, are working overtime to protect their profits by lobbying in state capitals and in Washington, DC to keep government off their backs. The banking industry, of course, has repeatedly warned that any restrictions on their behavior will close needy people out of the home-buying market.
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« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2008, 11:48:59 AM »

It's clear facts don't matter to you so there's really no point in continuing a dialogue.
WHEN has this EVER been about a dialogue? In order to have a dialogue, you have to have a reciprocal conversation... 

Just like many other investors, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had many accounting problems, some of which you have mentioned. They also had inadequate safeguards to cover their own investment portfolios. And those problems came home to roost when the real estate market crashed and caved in...  but what you're doing is mixing and matching roles, banks, financial institutions, trying to make things interchangeable... and they are not... You've got to be able to parse and pick through the garbage. .... there are people out there that are purposefully misleading the masses...

And YOU, my dear, are just one of the many who have just completely missed THE Tour Bus (air-conditioned, luxury reclining leather seats, tinted windows, extended cab, plasmas on the head-rests with a sunroof top) on this one ... and the following article from BusinessWeek explains why...

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were victims, not culprits
Posted by: Aaron Pressman on September 26

There’s a dangerous — and misleading — argument making the rounds about the causes of our current credit crisis. It’s emanating from Washington where politicians are engaging in the usual blame game but this time the stakes are so high that we can’t afford to fall victim to political doublespeak. In this fact-free zone, government sponsored mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac caused the real estate bubble and subprime meltdown. It’s completely false. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were victims of the credit crisis, not culprits.

Start with the most basic fact of all: virtually none of the $1.5 trillion of cratering subprime mortgages were backed by Fannie or Freddie.   That’s right — most subprime mortgages did not meet Fannie or Freddie’s strict lending standards. All those no money down, no interest for a year, low teaser rate loans? All the loans made without checking a borrower’s income or employment history? All made in the private sector, without any support from Fannie and Freddie.    (((Ahhhhh, remember that list of banks and financial institutions I listed above  --- please review THAT before you start assigning blame))))

Look at the numbers. While the credit bubble was peaking from 2003 to 2006, the amount of loans originated by Fannie and Freddie dropped from $2.7 trillion to $1 trillion. Meanwhile, in the private sector, the amount of subprime loans originated jumped to $600 billion from $335 billion and Alt-A loans hit $400 billion from $85 billion in 2003. Fannie and Freddie, which wouldn’t accept crazy floating rate loans, which required income verification and minimum down payments, were left out of the insanity.

There’s a must-read study by staff members of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York analyzing the roots of the subprime crisis that came out in March. I don’t think it got much attention then as the conclusions seemed uncontroversial at the time. But now that Washington politicians are trying to rewrite history, it should be mandatory reading for every American interested in knowing how we got here.
The study identifies five causes of the subprime meltdown:
-Convoluted loan products that consumers didn’t understand.
-Credit ratings that didn’t do a good job highlighting the risks contained in subprime-backed securities.
-Lack of incentives for institutional investors to do their own research (they just relied on the credit ratings).
-Predatory lending and borrowing (which I think means fraud perpetrated by borrowers).
-Significant errors in the models used by credit rating agencies to assess subprime-backed securities.

You’ll note in the Fed’s five causes that there’s some culpability for lenders, borrowers, investors and credit raters. There’s no blame for Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae which had little or nothing to do with the entire situation.

It’s certainly fair to criticize Fannie and Freddie over real issues that contributed to their downfall. The companies had numerous accounting problems and inadequate safeguards covering their own investment portfolios. Those weaknesses came home to roost when the real estate market cratered. Fannie and Freddie purchased billions of dollars of subprime-backed securities for their own investment portfolios and got hit just like every other investor. But it’s some kind of crazy, politically inspired CYA to blame for the mess we’re in.
http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/fannie_mae_and.html

See what I mean about being able to parse through the details.  Roll Eyes  All you short-bus people need to unite and get some basics...  Tongue


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« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2008, 04:27:52 PM »

The subprime primer
I'm sure this has made the rounds by now.  Press enter to advance the slides.
http://docs.google.com/TeamPresent?docid=ddp4zq7n_0cdjsr4fn&skipauth=true&pli=1
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« Reply #63 on: October 20, 2008, 05:28:24 AM »

I LOVE it... Great tool devineone... and thanks for posting it. This is my 1st time seeing it. Hey, maybe when and IF that Short Bus Express Driver reads it, we can get a real dialog going... lol   Cool

especially love the stick figures getting down to the nitty gritty....
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« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2008, 08:41:31 AM »

I LOVE it... Great tool devineone... and thanks for posting it. This is my 1st time seeing it. Hey, maybe when and IF that Short Bus Express Driver reads it, we can get a real dialog going... lol   Cool

especially love the stick figures getting down to the nitty gritty....
Yep, it's funny and sad.  Someone sent me this one, which seems fitting in this section and relates to the subprime primer. Undecided
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Young Chuck bought a Donkey from a farmer for $100. The farmer agreed to deliver the Donkey the next day. 
The next day he drove up and said, 'Sorry son, but I have some bad News, the donkey died.'  Chuck replied, 'Well, then just give me my money back.'   The farmer said, 'Can't do that. I went and spent it already.'   Chuck said, 'Ok, then, just bring me the dead donkey.'  The farmer asked, 'What ya gonna do with him ? Chuck said, 'I'm going to raffle him off.'  The farmer said You can't raffle off a dead donkey!'  Chuck said, 'Sure I can Watch me. I just won't tell anybody he's dead.'   
A month later, the farmer met up with Chuck and asked, 'What happened with that dead donkey?'   Chuck said, 'I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at two dollars a piece and made a profit of $898.'  The farmer said, 'Didn't anyone complain?'  Chuck said, 'Just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back.' 

Chuck now works for Goldman Sachs.
 

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« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2008, 02:10:12 PM »

...THE real players... Morgan Stanley, Barclays, Merrill Lynch, Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse, RBS, Countrywide, JP Morgan, Bank of China Ltd, Citigroup, Countywide, New Century, Option One, Fremont, Washington Mutual, First Franklin, RFC, Lehman Brothers, WMC Mortgage, Ameriquest .. just to name a few.... notice how the "color" of the argument changes once you focus on the real players... And all you can name is Fannie and Freddie?Huh? You're bent on pining this thing on the "undeserved"  and then the next day it's the "underserved"...  Roll Eyes

Those who profited handsomely from the sub-prime market and predatory lending, the mortgage bankers and brokers, are working overtime to protect their profits by lobbying in state capitals and in Washington, DC to keep government off their backs. The banking industry, of course, has repeatedly warned that any restrictions on their behavior will close needy people out of the home-buying market.
And the hits just keep on coming. Undecided Sad 
I know people are saying that Clinton's National Homeownership strategy unveiled in 1994 and authored by then HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros opened the door for the present financial meltdown we have now.  I think this is ridiculous.  Wealthy greedy financial people saw an opportunity to exercise greed and exploited the relaxed laws in mortgage lending designed to help people to own homes.  It's the same old adage, "give someone an inch, they'll take a mile. 
None of the people borrowing money for homes were in the position to wreak the type of havoc that we are seeing play out today in the global financial markets.   The real players were right there doing it though.

This is the result of years of unbridled greed run amok and gone unchecked.  Wealthy powerful people in the financial sector in a position to make billions of dollars knowing the shyt will hit the fan down the line after they've made all of their money. Thereby tainting the good intentions that that the strategy was put in place for which was to help more people be homeowners. 

Now people will say, "See I told you so, you can't give poor people any type of chance look at what they do go and buy homes they can't afford.  See, I told you, you can't do nuthin to help poor "undeserved" people, they muck it up everytime".  Not only do these wealthy cats, get away with fraud, they escape blame in the eyes of the general public.  Meanwhile the proverbial "Joe Plumber, just wanted to own a home, not bring the country to it's knees in debt and how could he was he really in a position to do all of that?

These type of opportunistic wealthy financial vultures are always around lying in wait, just looking for an opening to further their own wealth through any means necessary.  They have a "take no prisioners attitude" and let the chips fall where they may.  They did it during the S&L scandal of the 80's and this is no different.  Enron's Kenneth Lay screwed his own employees over due to unbridled greed.  Too much money and power breeds corruption nothing new there.  In another 20 years the same thing will happen again because people don't learn.  That's why they say money is the root of all evil.  It corrupts and people forget all about morals and just think about lining their own pockets.
 
Credit Rating Executives Acknowledge Failures
By Dan Robinson
Washington
23 October 2008
 
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-10-23-voa2.cfm

U.S. lawmakers have accused major credit rating agencies of serious failures in how they assessed mortgage-backed securities and other investments. Executives of major firms, and former employees testified at a congressional hearing, the latest to examine factors contributing to the U.S. financial system collapse. VOA's Dan Robinson reports.

Bond rating companies assign grades to a range of investments, including mortgage-backed securities at the heart of the current financial mess.

The role of such firms in financial markets has increased sharply in recent years, along with their profits.

House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chairman, Democratic Congressman Henry Waxman, accuses the firms of colossal failures asserting they became focused more on profits at the expense of investor security. "Million of investors rely on them for independent, objective assessments. The rating agencies broke this bond of trust and federal regulators ignored the warning signs and did nothing to protect the public. The result is that our entire financial system is now at risk," he said.

Criticisms by former employees of two large firms, Standard & Poor's and Moody's, and recommendations for change are resonating on Capitol Hill.

Jerome Fons, a former Moody's managing director of credit policy, says the firms badly missed the impact of falling house prices and declining standards linked to sub-prime mortgages, and he described the atmosphere he says prevailed at Moody's. "In my view, the focus of Moody's shifted from protecting investors to marketing ratings. The company began to emphasize customer service and commissioned detailed surveys of client attitudes. I believe the first evidence of this shift manifested itself in flawed ratings on large telecommunications firms during that industry's crisis in 2001." he said.

Calling reforms undertaken so far by rating firms inadequate, Fons urges what he calls sweeping management changes, firing of those associated with issuing faulty ratings, and more transparency and simplicity.

"We were all relatively well-educated and intelligent people and if you couldn't explain it to us, we were real curious how this [mortgage-based] product was enjoying such tremendous success. /// OPT /// And unfortunately anecdotally we were told it was enjoying a lot success because they were selling these bonds in Europe and Asia, and not in the U.S, particularly the lower rated pieces," said Frank Raiter, who was involved in rating mortgage-backed securities with Standard & Poor's until 2005.

Sean Egan, Managing Director of the Egan-Jones credit ranging agency, asserts that major credit agencies knowingly issued grossly inflated and possibly fraudulent ratings. "Issuers paid huge amounts to these rating companies for not just significant rating fees, but in many cases very significant consulting fees for advising the issuers on how to structure the bonds to achieve maximum AAA ratings. This egregious conflict of interest may be the single greatest cause of the present global economic crisis," he said.

Current executives blame the deterioration of the U.S. housing market mainly on a loosening of under-writing standards for sub-prime mortgages.

One after another acknowledged having observed negative trends, but added that they failed to appreciate the size of the problem.

Raymond McDaniel of Moody's, and Steven Joynt of Fitch Ratings:

MCDANIEL: We did not, however, anticipate the magnitude and speed of deterioration in mortgage quality or the suddenness of the transition to restrictive lending [the impact on the credit markets].

JOYNT: We did not foresee the magnitude or the velocity of the decline in the U.S. housing market, nor the dramatic shift in borrowed behavior brought on by the changing practices in the market, nor did we appreciate the extent of shoddy mortgage origination practices and fraud in the 2005 and 2007 period."

Along with Deven Sharma of Standard & Poor's, all expressed regret at the impact inaccurate ratings have had on American's investments.

With two weeks to go before the U.S. presidential and election on November 4th, the financial and credit system collapse remains a dominant issue for Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, and has lawmakers seeking re-election worried.

At Wednesday's hearing, Democrat Stephen Lynch and Republican Christopher Shays voiced their disgust:

"LYNCH: I have a lot of people in my district who feel that they have been de-defrauded and they're mad as hell and they think that in light of what has happened to them, someone ought to go to jail, and the more I hear in these hearings I am inclined to agree.

SHAYS: When the referee is being paid by the players, no one should be surprised when the game spins out of control."

House Republicans called Wednesday for a bipartisan commission to supplement investigations by Democratic-controlled committees and the Justice Department. "The financial crisis continues, and it cannot wait until the next Congress [for us] to begin action," said California Republican Darrell Issa.

Republicans plan to formally introduce legislation for such a commission when lawmakers return for more legislative work on the economy following the presidential election, although it is unclear what traction the proposal will have with majority Democrats.

Republicans also want a special counsel appointed to investigate what they call fraud and mismanagement at two large mortgage firms [Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] the federal government took control of before the financial market collapse.

 

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« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2008, 07:30:18 PM »

My bad...This is actually the fault of..

NOPE!! CONGRESS

but you can add 4 cups of Bill Clinton & a 2 cups of Alan Greenspan...

Credit Default Swaps

Steve Kroft examines the complicated financial instruments known as credit default swaps and the central role they are playing in the unfolding economic crisis.

October 27, 2008
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4546583n%3fsource=search_video

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