The Mysterious Biracial Baby

[DianaPrince]

Besides, with all the interracial humping and bumping going on, no one would be able to tell who is what in the near future anyway. 

Or we could develop the science/technology to use mitochondrial DNA or whatever to narrow it down to the exact source of all genotype/phenotype traits!  Just never can say what the future may bring...

[Kimora]

Why can't one identify with both parts of their race..........why should one be forced to choose??  because of what some narrow minded people think....??  The hell with them....this is that slave mentality shi+.....it is not scientifically proven that if you are half black and half white that automatically makes you BLACK.....

Black people need to get off this non-sense and stop believing what a bunch of  dead perverted white men fed them  100's of years ago.....

Sickening!!

[Obsidian]

Haze,

W/out so-called "racial" differences, we'd just find some other delineating characteristic to divide us into "us/them".  Unfortunately that's just human nature and we simply haven't evolved beyond that. But maybe someday...

[Luna]

I absolutely agree Haze.

[Ndgo]

Telling my child that the world sees him/her as Black isn't "lending credence" to it, it's simply telling them reality...It would be nice if I could just tell them, "You're biracial, the whole world sees you that way and it doesn't matter", but I can't honestly do that, and I'm not going to do such a disservice to my children.  Race matters in America...

Good points Phil... ITA... That's how we do in my home.

[MsHeartBeat]

Why are some people so desperate to force people into picking one side over the other?  I just don't get this type of thinking at all, and it mostly happens during black and white pairings, hardly any other races at all...
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Besides, with all the interracial humping and bumping going on, no one would be able to tell who is what in the near future anyway. 

Exactly.  That is why the White Supremacists are so upset.  WIth the blending of any colored race with White the child ends up looking tan/colored... NOT WHITE.  White is a recessive gene.  Color is dominant.  So the world will end up being one of COLORED PEOPLE, not lily white with blue eyes which is the anomaly. 

The White Supremists are upset that WHITE may be eradicated in a few generations if races keep mixing blending!  Their goal is to keep us separate, suspicious, hateful. 

Which of course leads us right back to the issue which is biracialness. 

When it comes to Black mixing with any other race, you are BLACK - not White, not Irish, not Indian, not Latino, not French, not Italian.  You are Black. 

Folks might not like it.  Might not want to hear it.  Might be angry 'cause they want to be considered anything other than Black, but it doesn't matter.  You are Black and that is all there is to it.     

[Haze23]

Exactly.  That is why the White Supremacists are so upset.  WIth the blending of any colored race with White the child ends up looking tan/colored... NOT WHITE.  White is a recessive gene.  Color is dominant.  So the world will end up being one of COLORED PEOPLE, not lily white with blue eyes which is the anomaly. 

The White Supremists are upset that WHITE may be eradicated in a few generations if races keep mixing blending!  Their goal is to keep us separate, suspicious, hateful. 

Which of course leads us right back to the issue which is biracialness. 

When it comes to Black mixing with any other race, you are BLACK - not White, not Irish, not Indian, not Latino, not French, not Italian.  You are Black. 

Folks might not like it.  Might not want to hear it.  Might be angry 'cause they want to be considered anything other than Black, but it doesn't matter.  You are Black and that is all there is to it.     

True, White supremacist are upset because of that, but that's because they're looking only at the outside.  The same way you are only looking at the outside.    Funny how a person who is mixed with French and Irish et al can claim both no problem and be completely who they are with no fuss from anyone but black mixed with (insert race here) can't be allowed the same previleges.  It seems to me as if when you're mixed with black you're not allowed to be anything else but who insecure people want you to be.  What difference would it make if I claim both sides?  It won't make me any less of either.  So what's the big deal?

Anyone who would sit there and just tell a person who and what they are is nothing but a control freak of the highest order.  

[Haze23]

Haze,

W/out so-called "racial" differences, we'd just find some other delineating characteristic to divide us into "us/them".  Unfortunately that's just human nature and we simply haven't evolved beyond that. But maybe someday...

True, this race stuff is just an excuse for human beings to do what they've been doing since the dawn of man, fling sh*t at each other.  But now that we're more "civilized" we use our words to do the flinging.  If or when race no longer becomes an issue we'll just be flinging something else....I just hope it isn't back to feces. 

[Ndgo]

Being black in america is like being under a huge umbrella... we got all the other groups already infiltrated AND covered within our ranks.  It's never ALL that we are.

In fact, it seems like your perception of what black is a little limiting...

[philnation]

Funny how a person who is mixed with French and Irish et al can claim both no problem and be completely who they are with no fuss from anyone but black mixed with (insert race here) can't be allowed the same previleges.

Funny or not (and I don't consider this particularly funny, but I guess that's just me), that's the unfortunate reality of how race operates in American society.

The store security officer who follows Black folks around isn't going to look at a person with one black and one White parent and think, "Wait! He has a White daddy, I shouldn't be following him around like a thief!"

Likewise, the police officer who pulls over Black men and searches their cars going to stop himself before turning on the siren lights, thinking, "Hold up! His mother is White, I can't stop him and search his car like he has something hidden there."

And on and on I could go.  The fact is, people will see a person with a Black parent as being Black nine times out of ten.  Arguing this point with folks who realize this reality is pointless; this has to be taken up with those for whom this really matters, like the White folks I just alluded to.

[DianaPrince]

Where would we be today if Rosa Parks just got up when she was told to and said.... "that's the unfortunate reality of how race operates in American society."?

The best way to keep a status quo in tact in to never challenge it and just accept is as an inevitable.

[philnation]

Here's a better question: Where would we be today if Rosa Parks merely argued with Black people about how wrong it is that she should have to sit at the back of the bus because she's Black?

The best way to challenge the status quo is to go after those that need to be challenged on it.

[Legacy]

Funny how a person who is mixed with French and Irish et al can claim both no problem and be completely who they are with no fuss from anyone but black mixed with (insert race here) can't be allowed the same previleges.

Funny or not (and I don't consider this particularly funny, but I guess that's just me), that's the unfortunate reality of how race operates in American society.

The store security officer who follows Black folks around isn't going to look at a person with one black and one White parent and think, "Wait! He has a White daddy, I shouldn't be following him around like a thief!"

Likewise, the police officer who pulls over Black men and searches their cars going to stop himself before turning on the siren lights, thinking, "Hold up! His mother is White, I can't stop him and search his car like he has something hidden there."

And on and on I could go.  The fact is, people will see a person with a Black parent as being Black nine times out of ten.  Arguing this point with folks who realize this reality is pointless; this has to be taken up with those for whom this really matters, like the White folks I just alluded to.

Phil, while that's true, people can make a distinction between how other folx in the world define them & how they define themselves.

If I had a black father & asian mother, I'd feel as strongly as Tiger about my racial identity all the while knowing that the Klan sees me @ss a nga

However, why would I let the Klan define me? I can know my enemy w/o agreeing with them.

[philnation]

Phil, while that's true, people can make a distinction between how other folx in the world defines them & how they define themselves.

No argument from me.  In theory, they can - but you know there's often a divergence between theory and reality.

[Haze23]

Funny how a person who is mixed with French and Irish et al can claim both no problem and be completely who they are with no fuss from anyone but black mixed with (insert race here) can't be allowed the same previleges.

Funny or not (and I don't consider this particularly funny, but I guess that's just me), that's the unfortunate reality of how race operates in American society.

The store security officer who follows Black folks around isn't going to look at a person with one black and one White parent and think, "Wait! He has a White daddy, I shouldn't be following him around like a thief!"

Likewise, the police officer who pulls over Black men and searches their cars going to stop himself before turning on the siren lights, thinking, "Hold up! His mother is White, I can't stop him and search his car like he has something hidden there."

And on and on I could go.  The fact is, people will see a person with a Black parent as being Black nine times out of ten.  Arguing this point with folks who realize this reality is pointless; this has to be taken up with those for whom this really matters, like the White folks I just alluded to.

Likewise, the police officer who pulls over Black men and searches their cars going to stop himself before turning on the siren lights, thinking, "Hold up! His mother is White, I can't stop him and search his car like he has something hidden there."

And on and on I could go.  The fact is, people will see a person with a Black parent as being Black nine times out of ten.  Arguing this point with folks who realize this reality is pointless; this has to be taken up with those for whom this really matters, like the White folks I just alluded to.
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I don't mean funny (Ha ha) but funny as in so sad you can't help but shake your head and laugh about it.   My point is how some people, BOTH black and white seem to hold the white race in such a strong high reguard when it comes to mixing.  For instance, If a person is mixed with French and Irish(I don't know why I keep using them but oh well  )  No one would think nothing of them claiming both because they are white and no one would assume the person holds one higher than the other, but if you add black with one of them and a person claims both people automatically ASSUME you are dimishing the black side.  That you want to deny it, that you're ashamed of it.  Mind you I know what certain people did in the past who was mixed with black and could pass for white, but that does not mean that every single mixed person in the world wants to do that or view the black side of them as a taint.   

I think this is something both black people and white people need to work on, seriously.   Actually screw that, Americans period need to work on that.  People here walk around with way too many misconceptions about other people based on what they see on the outside and they'll be damned if they let you tell them otherwise.  Ex:  My friend is Indian (From India)  because of her dark skin people ASSume she's "African American" and will even argue this with her because her accent is gone.  That is just ridiculous.   All the real life senerios you mentioned are true about how people will choose to view you and treat you based on their ignorance and their need to fling feces on anyone who is different from them but I would be validating that same ignorance by allowing them to define me as a person and going along with it.


"The best way to challenge the status quo is to go after those that need to be challenged on it."

True, but that will never happen as long as people are folding and allowing the majority to call the shots and define them.  You can't challenge anyone when you're following their example.   My attitude is this, in this day and age people of different races WILL sleep together and in the process procreate.  The product of this WILL be a person that is MIXED.  Big deal get over it and get a life.   If you can't it's not my problem but yours.