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« Reply #105 on: April 21, 2008, 09:22:50 AM »

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It's obvious that YBM need to pull up their pants in anyplace that's not a club. It's obvious men need to take responsibility for their children they've fathered. So & so forth....

But the difference is I'm not hounding you to make a comment... I'm not begging you to be accountable for them and their actions... I am simply stating what is annoying to me.  You require people to talk about things in a negative way about BW and then get mad when they don't... if you hadn't stepped foot in those threads, I wouldn't have cared either way and I certainly wouldn't have attacked you, and called you all the things you called me just for not saying what I wanted you to say...

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My point is y'all were dealing with everything *BUT* the issue.


And exactly how are we "dealing with" the issue by simply making assumptions based on what two men on the board have said.  Is that dealing with it or simply commenting on it.  I still say you are a control freak... but control freaks rarely see the error of their ways, that' why they must maintain control... so that others do not see their problem.

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Maybe, just maybe, you *could* get what you were looking for if you made some self-improvements & stopped blaming everyone else.

That's as true for anyone else as it is true for BW... so exactly what have you proven here today?  BW who are fat need to look in the mirror.  Yippie, yahoo, Glory be!  Doesn't anyone who has an issue such as this need to look in the mirror Legacy?
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« Reply #106 on: April 21, 2008, 09:38:55 AM »

So basically, you're saying that when you make such comments, you do it to beyatch & talk about BM negatively, not because you genuinely care about fixing the shyt.

Because, if you're in fact doing it because you wanna see folx do better (you know, that's what people like to fall back on) then are you telling me you don't want to see BW do better? Oh ok, so by that logic, if you can lob negative criticism @ BM because you're concerned  Roll Eyes then surely your concern for BW should compel you to do the same thing, correct?

I am hounding you for CONSISTENCY..  but personally, I think you're just hating..  HAHA!
Either way,.. off topic again.. WHAT A SHOCK..

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« Reply #107 on: April 21, 2008, 10:11:30 AM »

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So basically, you're saying that when you make such comments, you do it to beyatch & talk about BM negatively, not because you genuinely care about fixing the shyt.

No I'm saying that if it applies to you then take accountability and if it doesn't then comment if you please, but it's not a requirement.  It's up to the people who are doing whatever it is they are doing wrong, to fix the "shyt".  I'm just stating how I feel... but really I can't fix it cause it's up to each human being to fix themselves.  And in the case of the saggy pants... it's up to the people (although I'm particularly mad at our own folk who do it)  manufacturing these styles to stop putting that crap out there...

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Oh ok, so by that logic, if you can lob negative criticism & BM because you're concerned   then surely your concern for BW should compel you to do the same thing, correct?

Yes... and if you note, I made a few comments about the topic stating what I had to say about the subject.  It's not like I completely ignored the topic... and it's not like my comments suggested that the statement wasn't true, but I from personal experience couldn't tell you whether or not BW's obesity is unattractive to BM... I can only make an assumption about it based on what men say or based on being obese myself. 

In my thread about sagging pants... it wasn't a question I was asking MEN on the board about whether or not the sagging pants are attractive... it was a flat out statement I was making that I personally I find these pants disgraceful and then stating my reasons for feeling that way.  I would expect you the BM who finds fat BW repulsive to respond to your issue with BW in kind.  Why do you need me to agree with you... did I need you to agree with me in the saggy pant's thread?  Did I then follow you from post to post because you didn't agree... did I call you all kinds of names because you didn't agree? No.
So why do you do that to the posters on here?   

But what I didn't ask you to do is agree with me, or even account for it... which is what you are plainly asking BW on this site to do in the obesity thread... it's totally different.   I can care without being critical, just like you can care without being critical in the YBM thread I started.  Again, it all comes down to you trying to control the way a poster responds and thinks about personal issues YOU have.  I bet you are going to nitpick at Susa every chance you get about not agreeing with you in the "college ain't for everybody" thread... why?  Why do you do this?  It's so annoying.

PEOPLE RESPOND TO THINGS THE WAY THEY WANT TO RESPOND... stop playing Forum cop and let people (women) say what they want to say the way they want to say it  ARCHIE BUNKER!!!! Cheesy
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« Reply #108 on: April 21, 2008, 11:00:38 AM »

Yeah, ok..

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« Reply #109 on: April 21, 2008, 11:49:48 AM »

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Did I then follow you from post to post because you didn't agree... did I call you all kinds of names because you didn't agree? No.
So why do you do that to the posters on here?   
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I was called dishonest and plain obtuse for daring to suggest that perhaps there was a problem with the obesity Thread title

  Again, it all comes down to you trying to control the way a poster responds and thinks about personal issues YOU have.  I bet you are going to nitpick at Susa every chance you get about not agreeing with you in the "college ain't for everybody" thread... why?  Why do you do this?  It's so annoying.
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Thank you Bambi, we all should express our thoughts without worrying about whether we said them the way someone else thinks we ought to say them.  Maybe we don't hit on all the points another poster would prefer us to say, that poster has the opportunity to start his/her own thread to further expand upon the topic.  Well put Bambi Wink
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« Reply #110 on: April 21, 2008, 12:04:06 PM »

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DO...

One question.

Is it fair to expect people who are critical of BM (in this case) as it relates to relationships issues to also be critical of BW as it relates to relationships issues?

I'm just sayin..


BTW, I'm not trying to get you to say what I want you to say. I'm trying to get you to SAY ANYTHING PERIOD REMOTELY RELATED TO THE TOPIC when the finger is being pointed @ BW versus someone else, period.

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« Reply #111 on: April 21, 2008, 12:40:39 PM »

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 Again, it all comes down to you trying to control the way a poster responds and thinks about personal issues YOU have.  I bet you are going to nitpick at Susa every chance you get about not agreeing with you in the "college ain't for everybody" thread... why?  Why do you do this?  It's so annoying.

I see where you're coming from Bambi Wink
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« Reply #112 on: April 21, 2008, 12:57:20 PM »


Amazingly enough women can always seem to comment on & talk about what men are doing, yet they never seem to be as anxious to do so with women..

Yet another example.. Oh yeah... & more off-topic diversions..  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #113 on: April 21, 2008, 01:38:58 PM »

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Nobody really wants a sloppy woman on their arm.  I think someone like Queen Latifah who keeps herself up and tries to dress and keep herself attractive on the outside but also has a beautiful aura that shines from the inside will attract a man of any color. She used to be a little more than thick, don't know what she's looking like nowadays.   
   

I agree Bambi, nobody really wants a sloppy woman on their arm.
I had a friend who was tall 5'9" and was a big girl.  She carried herself like an Egyptian Queen along the lines of Queen Latifah now.  We'd go out to the clubs and she'd have guys swarming around her like bees to honey. She got married 3 years ago and moved out to LA. She was a stage actress on the side.  She had such an aura about her.  All of my friends who met her still ask about her to this day.   Cheesy
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« Reply #114 on: April 21, 2008, 01:48:04 PM »

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Nobody really wants a sloppy woman on their arm.  I think someone like Queen Latifah who keeps herself up and tries to dress and keep herself attractive on the outside but also has a beautiful aura that shines from the inside will attract a man of any color. She used to be a little more than thick, don't know what she's looking like nowadays.   
   

I agree Bambi, nobody really wants a sloppy woman on their arm.
I had a friend who was tall 5'9" and was a big girl.  She carried herself like an Egyptian Queen along the lines of Queen Latifah now.  We'd go out to the clubs and she'd have guys swarming around her like bees to honey. She got married 3 years ago and moved out to LA. She was a stage actress on the side.  She had such an aura about her.  All of my friends who met her still ask about her to this day.   Cheesy

I know some overweight & obese women with men too.

However, I have a question.. (well, actually two)

Do you know any who are overweight or obese with man problems? Do all overweight & obese women have a happily ever after love story ending?



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« Reply #115 on: May 02, 2008, 02:35:07 PM »



Ladies I feel many of you have answered your questions before. Not specifically YOU ALL -just don't have proof- but collectively sisters on this forum and other mediums of exchange  have lamented on about what real men are. I've seen woman as a collective on this very site promote an image of a brother referenced the male aggression of various species as proof positive of why brothers should uphold and protect womanhood. The rationalization would be furthered applied in the realm of approaching woman(being the aggressor), paying for dates, running a household, marriage, etc..etc. all the responses had no problem "differentiating" the "real men" or "alpha types" from those who don't measure up. The implication being that men have a genetic disposition to "want" to do so (or he isn't a real man).

Why shouldn't such rationalization apply to this thread?



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« Reply #116 on: May 03, 2008, 12:30:17 PM »

 
I know some overweight & obese women with men too.

However, I have a question.. (well, actually two)

Do you know any who are overweight or obese with man problems? Do all overweight & obese women have a happily ever after love story ending?

3 of my friends are thick women, they are not obese, but they are overweight but not grossly so and far from it.  They each got married to men who adored them, and since they had always been chunky, these men knew it and married them anyway.  Now to put your question back to you.
I know some slender and skinny women with overweight & obese guys too.
However, I have a question..(well, actually two)
Do you know any women who are slender or skinny with obese men as boyfriends having any problems?  Do all slender/skinny women with overweight obese men have a happily ever after love story ending?
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« Reply #117 on: May 03, 2008, 02:55:50 PM »

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I think you misinterpreted his questions.  People here are citing examples of overweight/obese women they know who found love as proof that obesity is not a barrier or an issue in dating.  Legacy is asking the [rhetorical] question--do you know any overweight women who have man problems--to demonstrate that a higher proportion of obese women DO have dating problems than those who do not.  There are more stories of obese women with dating issues than stories of obese women who found love.
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« Reply #118 on: May 03, 2008, 10:12:58 PM »

I do agree that overweight obese women do have problems dating guys.  Most guys don't find over weight women attractive any more than women find overweight obese men attractive. 

He asked me if "I knew of any overweight women who had man problems and I answered the question according to what "I" knew and cited 3 of my friends who found love in spite of being overweight.  However that's not to say that women who are overweight don't have man problems, but I don't personally know of any overweight women whom I associate with that do.
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« Reply #119 on: May 05, 2008, 09:13:19 AM »

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I think you misinterpreted his questions.  People here are citing examples of overweight/obese women they know who found love as proof that obesity is not a barrier or an issue in dating.  Legacy is asking the [rhetorical] question--do you know any overweight women who have man problems--to demonstrate that a higher proportion of obese women DO have dating problems than those who do not.  There are more stories of obese women with dating issues than stories of obese women who found love.

REAL TALK

Just look at the example I posted of the brother I talked to about this issue. 5-10 women out of 25 @ his gym he'd talk to now as they are. 20-25 women out of 25 @ his gym he'd talk to if they had an athletic to average build.

His sentiments are very similar to what I hear a lot of brothers saying.
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