The Ring

[devineone]

And don't flatter yourself..  I ain't reading half the shyt you or most people write with my undivided attention..- FOH!  Y'all be posting a lot of nonsense & I str8 up ain't reading all of it. Bold works tho.. I peep it in bold..

Leg don't you flatter yourself either.  You post BS.  Just as you can call other posters comments BS and nonsense, well likewise....
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[Ndgo]

Hold it... let me go get the popcorn, rootbeer and raisenettes.... be right back.

C'mon now, Bambi pass the popcorn... you got your hands all digging to the bottom...

I can't BELIEVE that any REAL man that's truly serious about getting with me, would be trying to pass off a used ring that he previously gave to another intended! But what it DOES tell me is a lot about the type of guy that could consider such mess... Only somebody that's never been in a real relationship could let that stuff fall out their mouths. ANY man with any amount of experience with even a kindergarten or elementary school sweetheart would know that you cannot re-gift a ring or anything else of sentimental value to a new girl... There ARE rules about such stuff... How blatantly rude and disrespectful!

NO I would not marry a man could even atttempt to re-gift to me an engagement/wedding ring. That's right! I said it. I would NOT marry the man... He obviously doesn't know me very well if he thinks he could pull some garbage like that... That's about as low as you can get! And why would that fool man STILL be holding onto that ring in the 1st place? You have to think about those sorts of things. If he hasn't cleaned out his life of the other woman, there really isn't room for you in his life yet. There is still a placeholder in his heart AND wallet. Just walk away... with a real quickness... I never heard of such foolishness...

See now ladies... you got to keep your eyes open to these signs. It's as plain as day.  And yeah Legacy... I'm basically talking about you... silly boy. You can't really believe in such ridiculousness... Ahhh... hold up... yeah... you probably can... 

Leave them cheap-azz nerdy men alone... trying to nickel and dime a girl to death... it ONLY gets worse as time goes on. It's in their blood. They will NEVER do better. That's a fact!

[Bambi eyes]

NO I would not marry a man could even atttempt to re-gift to me an engagement/wedding ring. That's about as low as you can get!

You know you're darn right!  Whatever was I thinking... I got a understanding heart and all and it's not really about a piece of jewelry but you're right... how could a man even think of doing such a thing and honestly look you in the eye at the altar and promise to love, honor and CHERISH you... you are absolutely right Ndgo... that's some shameful crap right there... they cherish you as long as it's not hurting da wallet.  Hahahhaha   too funny!

Devineone... you're right on gurl!  He's Talkin that trashy trash... the one that's even the garbage men won't go near with a ten foot pole.  Hahahahhaha

Insults Cruzcontrol and labels her before she even gets on here real good and then tries to clean it up talking about  newbie got panache...didn't even give her a proper welcome before blasting her with his putrid trash.

[Ndgo]

[Whatever was I thinking... 

... lolololol... I dunno... prolly a momentary laspe... I better pass the popcorn back and you'll be alright!

Actually, I'm trying to motivate myself about getting dressed again and going out to see the Sex in the City movie. Can you imagine a Carrie or Samantha  or even the gay guy in the movie putting up with such mess? 

[Vance87]

I think it's tacky and classless to keep the ring.  The same way women are saying that they wouldn't want a ring intended for another woman, why would you want a ring intended for your marriage that didn't occur?  Yes, it was given to you, but it meant something in the context of your relationship, it wasn't just a consumer item.  You can keep the car, clothes and other jewelry he gave you, but you should return the engagement ring if the engagement gets  broken off.  It's just the right thing to do.

I agree 100% ST.  This "symbolic" gesture falls entirely on the man in our culture. I'm just not hearing it from the beneficiary of a gesture that falls exclusively on me to provide. If there is no marriage, then the ring needs to go back. To think you can keep something given under the "expectation" of marriage; a commitment of major proportions is classless and the epitome of selfishness.   

[Legacy]

BAWAHAHAHAHA!!! How mad can I make y'all?

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HAHAHAHAHA!!!! I LOVE IT!!!

Hey, here's 2 questions..

1> Do the women on this board believe in equality?

2> If the answer is yes,.. how about buying men engagement rings as well?

*ABSOLUTE SILENCE..... WAIT I DO HEAR SOMETHING.......*

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME & MORE ME!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU13MRtSD7E

BAWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

I think it's tacky and classless to keep the ring.  The same way women are saying that they wouldn't want a ring intended for another woman, why would you want a ring intended for your marriage that didn't occur?  Yes, it was given to you, but it meant something in the context of your relationship, it wasn't just a consumer item.  You can keep the car, clothes and other jewelry he gave you, but you should return the engagement ring if the engagement gets  broken off.  It's just the right thing to do.

Pretty much.. unless you're a gold digger who thinks your entitled to keep it..

I agree 100% ST.  This "symbolic" gesture falls entirely on the man in our culture. I'm just not hearing it from the beneficiary of a gesture that falls exclusively on me to provide. If there is no marriage, then the ring needs to go back. To think you can keep something given under the "expectation" of marriage; a commitment of major proportions is classless and the epitome of selfishness.   

That's good logic... gold diggers don't think like that tho.. They're into this "ME" thing..

"Get down girl, go head get down...." HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Ndgo]

See that's why you can't catch a decent mate.... Equality in a relationship has NOTHING to do with splitting everything down the middle 50/50. Men and women have different needs, wants and desires.

What man do you know needs, wants, desires an engagement ring AND would wear it? Dang, we can barely get a man to wear his wedding ring, let alone an engagement ring...

The only types of men *I* know that might even consider wearing an engagement ring are those in same sex couplings... sooooooooooo my very humble suggestion is that IF it's an engagement ring that you are really fiending for... Talk to YOUR man about getting you one. 

That's what I think about THAT! Coming in here all acting like a fool and stuff... get you a man and let him buy you one... go straight to the source!

People ought to be loved in the manner which makes them happy.  If you are not being loved in the manner that you personally need... don't make excuses, just accept it and move along... get your needs met elsewhere...

[devineone]

BAWAHAHAHAHA!!! How mad can I make y'all?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! I LOVE IT!!!

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME & MORE ME!!!!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

"Get down girl, go head get down...." HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I see, this isn't about having a debate, a worthwhile discussion where people can express their ideas.  This is about you pushing women's buttons and getting a hard on from it. 
Oh well, I guess we all have to get our kicks some how.
"I peep it."   
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[Keba]

BAWAHAHAHAHA!!! How mad can I make y'all?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! I LOVE IT!!!

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME & MORE ME!!!!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

"Get down girl, go head get down...." HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I see, this isn't about having a debate, a worthwhile discussion where people can express their ideas.  This is about you pushing women's buttons and getting a hard on from it. 
Oh well, I guess we all have to get our kicks some how.
I peep it.   
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Oh lawd, y'alls crazeee!...LOL 

[cool breeze]

Well, before I married Nita, I had two broken engagements..The rings were returned by my former fiancees and I drove to Myrtle Beach for the first and Charleston for the second and promptly tossed each ring into the atlantic ocean..

[Legacy]

Get down girl, go head get down....

Get down girl, go head get down....

WORD! I'M FEELIN Y'ALL!!!! THAT'S STILL THE JAM!!! Y'ALL MAKE A GOOD GROUP!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU13MRtSD7E

BAWAHAHAHHAHA!!!...

BTW,.. y'all so mad y'all ignoring the article that talks about how the law deals with this in most cases..

Figures.. 


Conditional Gifts

But the majority of courts also consider such a gift to be a conditional one. That means that, until some future event occurs, the gift isn't final; if that event does not occur, then the donor has the right to get the gift back. In real life, many parents use this concept by, for example, giving a teenage daughter the keys to the family car, on the condition that she maintain a certain grade point average for a specified period of time. If she doesn't make the grade, the keys must be returned.

Women who want to keep their engagement rings often argue that the condition needed to make the engagement ring a final gift is simply the acceptance of the proposal of marriage, not the completion of the marriage ceremony. That way, if the engagement is broken, the ring remains her property.

But this argument often loses. The majority of courts find that the gift of an engagement ring contains an implied condition of marriage; acceptance of the proposal is not the underlying "deal." Absent some other understanding -- say, that the ring is merely a memento of a great trip to Hawaii -- most courts look at engagement rings as conditional gifts given in contemplation of marriage: "Once it is established the ring is an engagement ring, it is a conditional gift."

[devineone]

BAWAHAHAHHAHA!!!...
BTW,.. y'all so mad y'all ignoring the article that talks about how the law deals with this in most cases..
Figures.. 

Why should you expect us to pay close attention and read word for word your long azz articles especially when you've said you don't completely read what other posts write?  You said other posters comments are nonsense. What makes you think what you post is worth more than the judgement you pass on others?

Why am I being labeled into the collective "y'all" as in gold digger?  I shared my story and told where I gave the ring back?   Oh let me see cause I'm a woman? Figures... I knew in that earlier comment you didn't really mean what you said about not hating and that it was decent of me to give the ring back.  Now here it is, you're labeling me a gold digger (in your opinion).
You're such a woman hater.  It's so obvious on the boards. 

What are you like in bed with your SO? That attitude has to translate.
Why don't you mosey on over there in the 'Bedroom talk" thread and share with us.

While you're saying we ignored your article, you've ignored my questions about how you run your personal life in relation to rhetoric you spout.  Why can't you show by example to support what you say? Coolbreeze just came on to share a real life example. Real life testifying has far more of an impact than those stats, and opinions and articles you seem to have in abundance. We can go get that info ourselves, nothing unique about that.

Please note, that your "opinion" even when you call yourself stating law, is not the final word.  I have attorney friends and I am more than capable of reading up on that myself before I'd take your word on anything.

BTW, I'm not mad at you,  You don't stir me up enough for that, but I'll give you credit, you're pretty darn interesting and entertaining. 

[devineone]

Get down girl, go head get down....
WORD! I'M FEELIN Y'ALL!!!! THAT'S STILL THE JAM!!! Y'ALL MAKE A GOOD GROUP!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU13MRtSD7E
Figures.. 

And you can stop with the Kanye West video.  I'm not a fan of Kanye or any of this new style rap that's out.  Take away the Ray Charles in the background of that song, and nothing interesting is happening. The rap in and of itself can't stand alone.

I miss the rappers from the old school who had musicality about their skill. They rapped with the expertise of an instrumentalist on his horn especially a drummer.  They didn't need no music to support them.  It just enhanced what they did.
 
These rappers today, if you take away the music there's nothing rhythmically really happn' with their rap. (I'm not talking about the words so much).  But those old school guys were saying far more than this tripe out here today. I'm talking about the musicality of it.  Those old school guys were rapping with intricate beats happenin', triplets, swung 8th rhythms, 16th beats, even 32nds and that shyt was precise!  Man they could give some of the baddest drummers a run for their money.  In fact Max Roach, Charlie Parker's drummer admired the hell outta the old school rappers.  Not so much the kanye West brand.

I liked Bone Thugs n Harmony Cross Roads.  Lot of intricate rhythmic beats happenin there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpmr8Shy_UA

OPP Naughty By Nature was off the charts with that rap.  All kinds of musicality in that. Repeated triplets, almost got a latin thang happenin.  I liked that immediately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FWI_fLkw3k

Kool Moe Dee I go to work (Quincy Jones just loved him).  Take away the background music, that man is rapping his azz off like a drummer and he had such musicality.  So precise, everything right on beat.  He has that implied clave rhythm happening. (latin) Man he was just badazz along with many others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agnKPLrG2E0

These rappers out here just ain't on that level.  Little John and others... I'm so not interested in hearing that.  If ain't nothing happening musically, I'm not into it.

[cool breeze]

Coolbreeze just came on to share a real life example. Real life testifying has far more of an impact than those stats, and opinions and articles you seem to have in abundance.

In a way, devineone, those two break-ups were for the best..I can't really imagine either of those two women wanting to keep the rings and I couldn't keep the rings either..Looking back, maybe I should have just sold them or something, but I still feel I did the right thing..

lol..My wife is watching me type this and she's looking at her wedding ring while she's patting me on the back, telling me I did the right thing..

[devineone]

Coolbreeze just came on to share a real life example. Real life testifying has far more of an impact than those stats, and opinions and articles you seem to have in abundance.

In a way, devineone, those two break-ups were for the best..I can't really imagine either of those two women wanting to keep the rings and I couldn't keep the rings either..Looking back, maybe I should have just sold them or something, but I still feel I did the right thing..

lol..My wife is watching me type this and she's looking at her wedding ring while she's patting me on the back, telling me I did the right thing..

Looking back, maybe you could have sold those rings and donated the money to charity, that way something good could come from something painful. 
But who knows, maybe there are some people out there with metal detectors that work underwater and they are snorkleing to find lost treasures.  Maybe they'll find those rings and who knows, clean 'em up and use it.  Wonder who would do that....hmmmm.

Coolbreeze your wife is blessed to have a guy like you.  You seem to be "quality people", as we say in the south.  Alas The good ones are always taken.