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« on: December 09, 2008, 10:45:35 PM »

Say what? The Gubnor of Illinois tryin to sell Obama's vacant senate seat to the highest bidder and make a profit?  Man! Shocked

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/us/politics/10Illinois.html?_r=1&hp

December 10, 2008
Illinois Governor in Corruption Scandal
By MONICA DAVEY
CHICAGO — The governor of Illinois brazenly put up for sale his appointment of Barack Obama’s successor in the United States Senate, federal prosecutors said Tuesday.

In taped conversations with advisers, the governor, Rod R. Blagojevich, seemed alternately boastful, flip and spiteful about the Senate choice, which he crassly likened at one point to that of a sports agent shopping around a free agent for the steepest price, a federal affidavit showed. At times, he even weighed aloud appointing himself to the job, the prosecutors said.

“I’ve got this thing,” Mr. Blagojevich said on one tape, according to the affidavit, “and it’s [expletive] golden. And I’m just not giving it up for [expletive] nothing. I’m not going to do it. And I can always use it. I can parachute me there.”

Mr. Blagojevich (pronounced bluh-GOY-uh-vich), a Democrat, was arrested at his home at dawn Tuesday on charges of conspiracy and soliciting bribes. A lawyer for the governor said he denied any wrongdoing.

The corruption case extended well beyond the Senate appointment, stunned even a state that thought it had seen every brand of political corruption, created grave doubt over how or when President-elect Obama’s successor in the Senate might now be selected, and left many wondering who else might yet be implicated in Mr. Blagojevich’s brash negotiations, which were captured in phone calls taped by federal agents since before Election Day.

“The conduct would make Lincoln roll over in his grave,” Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the United States attorney for the Northern District of Illinois, said in announcing the arrest of Mr. Blagojevich and his chief of staff, John Harris.

Under state law, Mr. Blagojevich is assigned to name a replacement for Mr. Obama, who recently resigned as Illinois’ junior senator with two years remaining in his term.

Mr. Obama, who Mr. Fitzgerald said was not implicated in the case, sought to put distance between himself and the governor during brief remarks on Tuesday afternoon and later in an interview with The Chicago Tribune, saying he did not discuss his Senate seat with Mr. Blagojevich.

“I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so we were not — I was not aware of what was happening,” Mr. Obama said. “And as I said, it’s a sad day for Illinois. Beyond that, I don’t think it’s appropriate to comment.”

Throughout his career, Mr. Obama has adroitly straddled the state’s bruising politics, forming alliances with some old-style politicians even as he pressed for ethics reform. But Mr. Obama had long been estranged from the governor, even though some in his political circle have had relationships with both of them, including Rahm Emanuel, his chief of staff, and Emil Jones Jr., the retiring State Senate president and a longtime mentor.

The federal accusations against Mr. Blagojevich go beyond the Senate question into what the authorities here described as a “political corruption crime spree.”

The governor is accused of racing to solicit millions of dollars in donations from people with state business before an ethics law bars such behavior in January, and threatening to rescind state funds this fall from businesses, including a Chicago hospital for children, whose executives refused to give him money. He is also accused of putting pressure on The Chicago Tribune to fire members of its editorial board who had criticized him or lose the governor’s help on the possible sale of Wrigley Field, which is owned by the Tribune Company and is home to the Chicago Cubs.

Mr. Blagojevich, who looked somber during an afternoon appearance in federal court, was released from custody on a $4,500 recognizance bond after surrendering his passport. A hearing in federal court will be held in January to determine whether there is probable cause to go forward with the charges.

Sheldon Sorosky, his lawyer, later told reporters that the governor was “very surprised and certainly feels that he did not do anything wrong.”

According to the affidavit, in more than a month of recorded phone calls at his home and campaign office, Mr. Blagojevich considered numerous ways that he might personally and politically gain from the various Senate candidates, none of whom were identified by name in the court filing. One possible choice might be able to help him secure a post with the new administration as secretary of health and human services or energy; a “three way” deal involving a union and a candidate might win him a union leadership post; or perhaps, he could secure the high-paying helm of a nonprofit organization that could be created for him.

Mr. Blagojevich, whose administration has for years been known to be the subject of a federal corruption investigation, also spoke of his family’s financial woes and said he had three criteria for selecting the new senator: “Our legal situation, our personal situation, my political situation — this decision, like every other one, needs to be based on that.”

In several possible situations, the affidavit says, Mr. Blagojevich seemed to refer to plans already under way to make money or win a job (for him or his wife, Patti) in exchange for a particular Senate selection, raising the specter that there might be others, including some of the Senate candidates, who were participating or at least considering participating in such deals.

Even before Mr. Obama was elected president, Mr. Blagojevich was taped telling an adviser on Oct. 31 that he was giving greater consideration to one candidate (described only as Senate Candidate 5) after an approach by “an associate” of that candidate who offered to raise $500,000 for Mr. Blagojevich, while another emissary of the Senate hopeful offered to raise $1 million. “We were approached ‘pay to play,’ ” Mr. Blagojevich said on tape.

But prosecutors, who have made it clear that the investigation is continuing and who issued a plea on Tuesday for people to come forward with information, warned against drawing any conclusions about the true roles of candidates or anyone else in Mr. Blagojevich’s plans. And they emphasized repeatedly that the affidavit made “no allegations against the president-elect whatsoever.”

Several people among the half-dozen whose names have been suggested publicly as Senate possibilities did not respond to requests for interviews. Others, including Representative Jesse L. Jackson Jr. and Mr. Jones of the State Senate, who has been one of Mr. Blagojevich’s few allies in Springfield, issued statements expressing shock over the accusations, but they did not answer requests for interviews.

“If these allegations are proved true, I am outraged by the appalling, pay-to-play schemes hatched at the highest levels of our state government,” said Mr. Jackson, who had openly expressed interest in Mr. Obama’s old job and who met with Mr. Blagojevich, whom he is not known to be close to, for 90 minutes on Monday afternoon to discuss the post.

In November, Mr. Blagojevich asserted to an adviser, the affidavit says, that he knew whom Mr. Obama wanted named as his successor — described in the affidavit as Senate Candidate 1, a reference apparently to Valerie Jarrett, a senior adviser to Mr. Obama — but cursed him in apparent frustration that “they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation.”

Ms. Jarrett later took her name out of consideration for the post. But at one point, Mr. Blagojevich spoke to an official at the Service Employees International Union, the affidavit says, with the “understanding that the union official was an emissary” to discuss the possibility of a “three-way deal” that would put Ms. Jarrett in the Senate seat, Mr. Blagojevich at the leadership of Change to Win, a union-affiliated group, and “in exchange, the president-elect could help Change to Win with its legislative agenda.”

Officials at the service union said they had no reason to believe that any union officials were involved in wrongdoing, and a spokesman for Change to Win said the group had had no involvement or discussion with Mr. Blagojevich. “The idea of a position at Change to Win was totally an invention of the governor,” the spokesman said.

Ms. Jarrett could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Mr. Obama’s advisers made the decision on Tuesday essentially to remain silent and ignored criticism for doing so from Republicans, a strategy reminiscent of how the Bush administration reacted to the last high-profile case of Mr. Fitzgerald, who was the special prosecutor in the C.I.A. leak case. Still, David Axelrod, a senior adviser to Mr. Obama, issued a statement late Tuesday saying he had misspoken in comments he made in November that now seemed to contradict Mr. Obama’s assertions that he had no contact with Mr. Blagojevich in the conversations over a replacement.

“I know he’s talked to the governor,” Mr. Axelrod said in an interview with “Fox News Sunday” on Nov. 23. “And there are a whole range of names, many of which have surfaced.”

On Tuesday, Mr. Axelrod said he had been wrong. “They did not then or at any time discuss the subject,” according to his statement.

The arrest leaves the fate of Mr. Obama’s vacant Senate seat in limbo. Mr. Blagojevich, who may remain in office while charged, still has the power to name a successor to Mr. Obama, though Illinois political experts suggested that the Legislature might move quickly to impeach him — and questioned whether anyone would want an appointment so tainted.

Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, said that “no appointment by this governor under these circumstances could produce a credible replacement.”

Mr. Jones said he would call the State Senate back into session to write a law to schedule a special election for the seat.

And Illinois Republicans called for Mr. Blagojevich to resign immediately “for the good of the state,” a possibility that would put Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn, a Democrat who has clashed with Mr. Blagojevich for years and who said Tuesday that they had last spoken in the summer of 2007, in charge.

Of the accusations against Mr. Blagojevich, Mr. Quinn said he was astonished, adding, “Pray for every person and every family in Illinois.”

Mr. Blagojevich arrived in office in 2002, portraying himself as a fresh break from the investigations that had plagued the state for years — and most recently from the investigation and eventual conviction of Gov. George Ryan, a Republican whom Mr. Blagojevich succeeded.

Last month, Mr. Blagojevich said that despite his regular criticism of Mr. Ryan over the years, he believed that President Bush should commute Mr. Ryan’s 6 ½-year sentence even though he had served less than 13 months. It would be a “fine decision,” Mr. Blagojevich said.

On Monday, Mr. Blagojevich, who was visiting a factory sit-in here in Chicago, said he was unconcerned about reports of the corruption investigations that have swirled around his administration since at least 2005 and have swept up 14 other people.

“I don’t believe there’s any cloud that hangs over me,” he told reporters at the factory. “I think there’s nothing but sunshine hanging over me.”

Mr. Blagojevich seemed not to mind earlier news reports that his conversations had been taped. “I should say if anybody wants to tape my conversations, go right ahead, feel free to do it,” he said, though he added that those who carried out such tapings sneakily, “I would remind them that it kind of smells like Nixon and Watergate.”

Steven Greenhouse, Susan Saulny, Jeff Zeleny and Carl Hulse contributed reporting.

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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 02:00:11 PM »

Well he's history.  President-Elect Obama is calling for him to step down.  (As he should).
He'll join the growing list of "Gubnors gone wild, or Gub'nor's behaving badly in Chicago alone.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Blagojevich-Not-the-Only-Governor-Gone-Bad.html

Power corrupts.  Is it really that hard for someone not to get high off all of that power to the point where they lose all sense of judgement and common sense?  These are intelligent men here C'mon!  Roll Eyes

There are a few recent cases in other states:
Spitzer, NY:  Got his swerve on, through illegal prostitution while married
Mcgreevey, NJ: Confessed to gettin his swerve on with a male lover, while married.

Power, sex, greed seems to be the downfall of many a politician.  It's become a cliché Roll Eyes

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/ap_on_go_pr_wh/illinois_governor_obama

WASHINGTON – President-elect Barack Obama on Wednesday joined others calling for Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich to resign, distancing himself further from the unfolding scandal over allegations that the governor schemed to barter Obama's vacant Senate seat for personal gain.

"The president-elect agrees with Lt. Gov. (Pat) Quinn and many others that under the current circumstances it is difficult for the governor to effectively do his job and serve the people of Illinois," Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said in response to questions from The Associated Press.

Blagojevich was arrested Tuesday, accused of seeking money or other favors to influence his choice in picking Obama's replacement. The governor has authority to appoint the replacement, but top Illinois lawmakers have said they are preparing to call the Legislature into session as early as next week to set a special election to choose Obama's successor.

Asked whether Obama supports a special election, Gibbs said Obama believes the General Assembly should consider how to fill the Senate seat and "put in place a process to select a new senator that will have the trust and confidence of the people of Illinois."

Aides say Obama is refraining from stating what that solution should be.

If Blagojevich resigns, Quinn would become governor and have the right to appoint Obama's successor. That would avoid a special election, which can be costly, and speed up the appointment of Illinois' junior senator.

Over the past two days since Blagojevich's arrest, Obama and his aides have largely refrained from commenting on the scandal. When Obama has spoken about the case, he's been cautious.

In brief comments to reporters Tuesday, Obama said "like the rest of the people of Illinois I am saddened and sobered by the news that came out of the U.S. attorney's office today," but he didn't go so far to condemn Blagojevich's alleged actions.

He did add about Blagojevich's process of considering a successor: "I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so I was not aware of what was happening."

Obama reiterated that point in an interview published in the Chicago Tribune and the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday. "I have not discussed the Senate seat with the governor at any time," he said.

But Obama wouldn't answer a question on whether he was aware of any conversations between the governor and his top aides, including incoming White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. "It's an ongoing investigation," Obama said. "I think it would be inappropriate for me to ... remark on the situation beyond the facts that I know."

And, aides didn't say whether Emanuel, a Democratic Illinois congressman, was ever approached by the governor's emissaries involved in allegedly corrupt schemes. Nor did they say whether Obama is investigating his own ranks to determine whether any of his staffers had contact with the governor or his office.

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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 05:23:58 PM »

Trying to get more information on this before I pass judgment.

Does anyone have the actual recording or transcript of what the Gov. allegedly said?

All I can find are 'transcript bites' of what he said, which to me, don't amount to much as of yet.

When I first heard about this the first question that came to mind was "isn't this something they do in Washington when they (congressmen) are looking to leverage their vote on a particular bill"?

Maybe  I haven't gotten the whole story which is why I'm wondering if they released any of the recordings of him selling the senate seat.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2008, 11:50:48 PM »

From Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081211/ap_on_re_us/illinois_governor

BEGINNING OF EXCERPT:

One day earlier, federal prosecutors released a thick document that included excerpts of wiretapped conversations in which the governor allegedly schemed to enrich himself by offering to sell Obama's Senate seat for campaign cash or a lucrative job inside or outside government.

END OF EXCERPT

These news reports leave more questions than answers. First of all, after the Richard Jewell botch job, inability to definitively determine the culprit behind the anthrax crimes and unwillingness to prosecute the criminals who led us to an illegal war (Bush, cheney, rumsfield and YES Powell), I'm just not that eager to take the fed's side just because they released selected excerpts of recorded phone conversations.

Second, what is "campaign cash"? Is it the same 'campaign cash' that the 2008 Pres. candidated doled out to the superdelegates legally?
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/02/superdelegates.html

And exactly how does one enrich himself with this 'campaign cash'?   From what I heard it sounds like both the Feds and the media are trying to tie things together that don't necessarily go together. For instance I read (not heard) excerpts allegedly from the Gov. as to how the seat wasn't going to be free and then I read stuff given immediately after (by the media) about money to his non-profit org as if the money was being talked about for the seat.

I'm not saying the Gov. is innocent but someone with the shattered reputation of the federal government (Iraq, waterboarding, Corp. bailouts, etc.) has to come with more than what I've heard for me to side with them. Plus, whatever happened to "innconect until proven guilty"?
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2008, 11:15:30 PM »

Didn't know whether to post this hear or in the Citigroup Bailout thread.

I wanted to comment on the Madoff issue since in my eyes all of this garbage is related.

Now the Madoff mess is here and I'm asking the same thing I did with Blagojevich. Except now I'm like isn't the american economy one big ponzi scheme? Those in early reap the rewards. Those who come in after are left holding the bag when the bubble finally bursts as we now see in real estate.

I think Blagojevich and Madoff are only being taken to the ringer because they were "brazen" enough to voice what they were doing thus violating the unwritten rules of inside secrecy.

And then I'm hearing both AIG and Goldman Sachs, two outfits who received my tax dollars to bail their incompetent asses out, are now doling out fu^%&( bonuses. Angry It's obvious to me that in light of the blantant THIEVERY of the American people by our government (Obama included since he has yet to speak out against this bullshyt and has actually thrown his support behind this foolishness), the feds are merely trying to throw attention to a couple of putz whose crimes don't come close to what the crooks in washington are doing. Let's not even talk about what state governments are doing to taxpayers to close their budget gaps. Roll Eyes AND WE SPENT OVER A TRILLION $$$ TO TOPPLE A BUM WHO WASN'T EVEN A THREAT TO US OR ANYONE ELSE!
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2009, 09:50:10 PM »

I really don't get this dude.  Undecided He is bold though!

"Governor of Illinois Rod Blagojevich names Barack Obama's successor".
 
Rod Blagojevich, the scandal-plagued Illinois Governor who is accused of trying to sell Barack Obama’s US Senate seat, astonished political observers last night by naming a retired, 71-year-old black politician as the replacement to fill it.

Despite facing multiple corruption charges, impeachment proceedings and warnings from the Democratic leadership in Washington that anybody he chose would be unacceptable, Mr Blagojevich named Roland Burris, the former Illinois attorney-general, to succeed Mr Obama.

The move was condemned by Mr Obama, who said that while Mr Burris was a “good man and a fine public servant”, the governor had no right to appoint him. “I agree with [the Democratic leaders’] decision, and it is extremely disappointing that Governor Blagojevich has chosen to ignore it,” the President-elect said.

“Please don’t allow the allegations against me to taint this good and honest man,” Mr Blagojevich declared, as he stood next to a beaming Mr Burris at a chaotic Chicago press conference. “The people of Illinois are entitled to have two US senators represent them in Washington DC.”

Although Mr Burris had called for the governor’s resignation four days after his arrest, yesterday he described Mr Blagojevich as a man of “unquestioned integrity, extensive experience and a wise and distinguished senior statesman of Illinois.”

The audacious move by Mr Blagojevich, who has defiantly refused to step down despite his arrest on December 9, immediately presented Democrats with a political dilemma. Legally, the Illinois Governor still has sole power to name Mr Obama’s replacement, and it was unclear if the party leadership on Capitol Hill really has the constitutional power to block the appointment. The Illinois secretary of state said, however, that he would refuse to certify the appointment and court battles are expected on all fronts.

“This was a stunning display of chutzpah,” said Chris Kofinis, a Democratic strategist. Party leaders were dismayed that Mr Burris, who has paid $14,000 (£9,700) in donations to Mr Blagojevich’s campaign funds, had accepted the appointment.

A statement representing all Senate Democrats, lead by Harry Reid, the chamber’s leader, said the appointment was “unfair to Mr Burris, unfair to the people of Illinois and ultimately will not stand”. A spokesman for Mr Reid called it “unacceptable”.

If Mr Reid makes good on his threat to try to block the move, he and his colleagues will find themselves opposing only the fourth African- American to enter the Senate since Reconstruction. Two of the other three have come from Illinois, including Mr Obama, where the black vote is a central constituency for Democrats in the state.

In a clear sign of the racially charged dimension of the appointment, Bobby Rush, a veteran black congressman from Illinois, stood up at the press conference to declare: “I ask you not to hang or lynch the appointee. Roland Burris is worthy.”

Mr Blagojevich could be impeached and thrown out of office by early February. If the appointment stands, Mr Burris would hold the seat until 2010, when a full, state-wide election will be held. Under the Constitution, the Senate has the power to judge the qualifications of a senator and can refuse to seat them, but such a move would open it up to a legal challenge that could go all the way to the Supreme Court.

“I will uphold the integrity of the office,” Mr Burris said, refusing to comment on the corruption charges against Mr Blagojevich. “I am humbled to have been appointed.”

There is no suspicion that Mr Burris paid or offered any political favours in exchange for the appointment. Described by one analyst as a “quintessential Democratic machine hack”, he served from 1979 to 1991 as the Illinois comptroller. He has twice lost bids to become governor, and also ran losing campaigns to become Mayor of Chicago, and for the US Senate.

He is not close to Mr Obama, primarily because they come from different generations. If he does enter the Senate, he will replace the President-elect as the only African-American. Even before the scandal erupted, he was considered a long-shot candidate to succeed Mr Obama. After the governor’s arrest, Mr Burris stepped up his efforts to win his support.

Mr Blagojevich was arrested on December 9 by the FBI on a variety of corruption charges. He is accused of trying to sell Mr Obama’s seat to the highest bidder, and federal prosecutors say they have wiretap recordings of the governor declaring, among other things, that “I’m not giving it up for f****** nothing”.

Democrats in Illinois are partly to blame for the problem they now face. They declined to call a special election to fill Mr Obama’s seat, a legislative move that would have robbed Mr Blagojevich of the power to appoint a replacement, because they feared that they might lose to a Republican.
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2009, 10:01:39 PM »

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I really don't get this dude.  Undecided He is bold though!

The Governor has the legal authority to make the appointment who, by several admissions, is qualified to fill the seat. I think Sec. of State and other politicians gunning for Blagojevich do a disservice to the people by 1) Not moving to legally strip the power away from the Governor yet 2) denying the appointment of an obviously qualified politician (Burris) to fill Obama's seat.

I think in the end, a judge will make the decision as to whether or not Burris stays.

I also read the other day that the feds are requesting an extension of the Jan. 7 deadline (i think that's the date) to bring an indictment against the Gov. My guess and prediction (respectively) is that they don't have as much evidence as first reported by the media and that the Governor will eventually escape an indictment, if not walk all together.
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2009, 11:14:21 AM »

I was wrong. It should be the people who make the decision as to whether or not Burris serves as US Senate.  - Da6cents

NATIONAL COALITION FOR FAIRNESS & JUSTICE IN THE U.S. SENATE
U.S. Rep. Bobby L. Rush - National Convener
 
 
CONG. RUSH ORGANIZES NATIONAL MOVEMENT TO SEAT
SEN. ROLAND BURRIS IN U.S. SENATE

 Coalition plans massive support rally on Sunday, Jan. 4th in Chicago
 
CHICAGO -
Today, U.S. Representative Bobby L. Rush said he has organized a national coalition to ensure Sen. Roland Burris takes the oath of office next week in the U.S. Senate and he also reissued his call to Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) not to 'stand in the door of the Senate' and block the only African-American member from the legislative body.
 
This move comes days after IL Governor Rod R. Blagojevich appointed Burris to fulfill the vacated senate seat of President-Elect Barack Obama. Reid and others have vowed to block the appointment because the governor has been accused of corruption, but has not been indicted or convicted in a court of law.
 
Members of the National Coalition for Fairness and Justice in the U.S. Senate include some of the most prominent business, civic, legal, legislative and religious representatives. The group has planned a prayer service on Sunday, January 4 at 6 p.m. at New Covenant Baptist Church, 740 E. 77th Street, and two days prior to Burris' trip to Washington, D.C., where he plans to be sworn into the senate. The group will challenge Americans who believe in fairness and justice to flood the phones of Reid (202-224-3542), Durbin (202-224-2152 or 312-353-4952) and Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White (312-793-2556 or 217-782-7017).
 
"I am sending a letter to our senior Senator scrotum Durbin and to all of the members of the Illinois delegation appealing to them to support Roland Burris appointment as the next U.S. Senator. This is the moral thing to do, this is the legal thing to do and this is the right thing to do," said Cong. Rush.
 
"We will not allow Harry Reid or anyone else to stand in the door of seating Roland Burris as our next United States senator on Tuesday," said Eddie Read, chairman of the Black Independent Political Organization. "They cannot cherry pick which duties Blagojevich can perform as the duly elected governor of Illinois. Their actions are unconstitutional, illegal and immoral. Roland has20been elected to statewide office four times by the people of Illinois. If he was good enough then, he is good enough now."

Added Rev. Stephen J. Thurston, president of the National Baptist Convention of America, one of the largest African-American religious organizations in the world, "We intend to stand with Sen. Burris as he moves to Washington to enact the duties of that office," he said.
 
Burris, who is African-American, is a highly experienced legislator having three times been elected as the state's comptroller and once as its attorney general. A noted civil rights attorney, financial and economics expert and known as a bi-partisan coalition builder, he has an outstanding record of public service that has not been challenged even by those who oppose his appointment. He has never lost an election to a Republican.

If Burris is not seated there will be no African-American serving in the U.S. Senate. Only Hiram Revels, Blanche K. Bruce, Edward Brooke, and Carol Moseley Braun, have held the position before President-Elect Obama resigned to transition into the Executive Branch. Today, in addition to Asians, Latinos and Pacific-Islanders, there are 12 women who now serve in the U.S. Senate. Thirty-five women have served since the Senate's founding in 1787, including Senator Braun, the first African-American woman ever elected to this prestigious office from Illinois.
 
"Gov. Blagojevich is within his right and is exercising his duties of office in appointing Burris to the senate," said State Senator Donne Trotter, majority whip in Illinois. "He (Burris) must be seated on Tuesday."
 
"I have been in the struggle my whole life, whether for civil rights, against apartheid, to enable women, to lift up those who have been left behind, or for meaningful education," said Professor Alice Palmer, former IL State Senator. "Forty-percent of Black children are born into poverty and 70 percent of Black men between the age of 18 and 24 are jobless; it is clear to me that we need a Black voice in the U.S. Senate-not for emotional or symbolic reasons, but because there are still hard issues that Black voices in particular must speak to. I urge the U.S. Senate to seat Roland Burris."
 
The coalition noted the first historical attempt to block a qualified African-American from serving in the congress when in 1969 the then Speaker of the House John McCormack tried unsuccessfully to block Adam Clayton Powell from taking his seat as the congressman from Harlem, NY. The group also noted the dual standard of criteria being used against Burris, in the wake of Sen. Joe Liberman's open opposition to his own party.
 
"Attorney Roland Burris' counsel has raised some substantial incredible legal20claims that cannot be ignored. In the final analysis it seems certain that he will be confirmed as the senator designate to replace President-Elect Barack Obama," said noted Harvard Law Professor Charles Ogletree.
 
"The appointment of Sen. Burris has been made with the legal authority of the governor of Illinois," said Dr. Conrad Worrill, chairman of the National Black United Front. "It is clear that the senate of the United States government has primarily been a white club. Our push for Black representation in the U.S. Senate is steeped in the history of the exclusion of Black participation."
 
"President-Elect Obama ran on the message of change, transparency and inclusion and here you have 50 U.S. senators threatening to block the only African-American senator in Congress. This is appalling behavior that is all too familiar in American history. That day is over," said Rev. Al Sampson, president of the Chicago chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which was created by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. "We're rolling with Roland."
 
For more information contact Stephanie Gadlin, coalition spokeswoman, at 773-629-5948.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 12:51:17 PM »

The drama continues....

"Burris denied seat in US Senate" 


The secretary of the U.S. Senate turned away Roland Burris today, refusing to allow the appointee of embattled Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich to be seated or to take the oath of office.

Burris, his attorneys and advisors held a news conference at about 10 a.m. to report what had happened and said that they would "survey all options."

Timothy Wright, Burris' attorney, spoke after his client and said that the former Illinois comptroller was "rejected by the secretary of the Senate, not allowed to be placed in the record book, and not allowed to proceed to the Senate floor to take the oath."

The options he outlined included filing a suit in district court as well as deliberating with the Senate leadership.

About 9 a.m., umbrellas partially shrouded Burris as he strode briskly toward the Capitol steps, followed closely by a large phalanx of reporters and photographers. It still wasn't clear whether 71-year-old former Illinois attorney general would be allowed to take the oath of office for the seat given him by Blagojevich.

Earlier today, Burris had been in tense negotiations with Senate Sergeant at Arms Terrance Gainer. Once inside the Capitol, he was taken to the secretary of the Senate's office where he presented his credentials.

But Democratic leaders were determined to keep him out of the exclusive club. The immediate reason is that his letter of appointment has not been signed by the Illinois secretary of state.

"I'm presenting myself as the legally appointed senator from the state of Illinois. It is my hope and prayer that they recognize that the appointment is legal," he said earlier in a nationally broadcast interview.

Burris dismissed the Senate Democratic leadership's position that he cannot be seated because he was appointed by a governor accused in a criminal complaint of trying to benefit financially from his authority to fill the seat that Obama vacated after winning the presidential election.

Burris said his belief is that his appointment is constitutional and that "I have no knowledge of where a secretary of state has veto power over a governor carrying out his constitutional duties."

 Susy Schultz; The Associated Press contributed



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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 09:51:55 PM »

These clowns kill me when they use the law to fit their political agenda. Everything that Blagojevich and even Bill Richardson is being investigated for GEORGE BUSH has already done. And the cowards from CONgress and IL did and said nothing  Angry

The people of IL are being denied their constitutional right to representation just like the American people are being denied EVERYTHING (namely the truth).

Between this garbage and the bullshit genocide the fake as jews in israel are committing in palestine, I am (once again) ashamed to call myself an American.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 06:18:04 PM »

Maybe lemonade can come out of this lemon that Blagojevich created.

"Reid: Burris may ultimately get Senate seat."
Obama suggests he would accept Burris as his successor

updated 3:34 p.m. ET, Wed., Jan. 7, 2009
WASHINGTON - Roland Burris said Wednesday he should be able to join the Senate "very shortly," after talking to newly supportive Democratic leaders and working on lingering legal obstacles.

Talking to reporters on the second day of a Washington power odyssey that would intimidate many, the 71-year-old Burris declared himself happy and said he was pleased with his meeting with Sens. Harry Reid and private parts Durbin.

My whole interest in this experience is to be prepared" to lead Illinois, Burris said, "and very shortly I will have the opportunity to do that."

Burris' legal issues include a pending decision by a court in his home state on whether Secretary of State Jesse White's signature is required on his certification papers and his appearance Thursday before a committee considering the impeachment of Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who appointed him to take the Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama.

Senate leaders hoped that Burris would be asked under oath Thursday whether he promised Blagojevich anything in exchange for the appointment to Obama's seat. Burris offered his assurances at a news conference Wednesday that he wasn't involved in any such "pay to play."

For his part, Obama stood above the fray, telling his own news conference that the decision on whether to allow Burris to join the Senate is a decision for Senate leaders. He did say that he knew him, liked him and would be happy to work with him if he is seated.

Senate leaders were under significant pressure to resolve the Burris matter quickly before its racial and political themes further overshadowed the 111th Congress and its consideration of a stimulus bill that could cost $1 trillion.

The Congressional Black Caucus voted unanimously Wednesday to support seating Burris. Chairwoman Barbara Lee of California said the 41-member caucus plans to send a letter to Senate Democratic leaders calling for Burris to be seated immediately.

Meanwhile, Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group, sued the Senate Wednesday, saying the refusal to seat Burris is unconstitutional.

"This is a situation where we have a senator who has now missed out on his first day," said Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md. "It's only fair that he be sworn in immediately. This is a no-brainer."

Senate leaders weren't quite ready to do that, but they were pivoting abruptly from their posture a day earlier that Burris lacks the proper paperwork to be seated and that the taint of Blagojevich's corruption charges would strip him or anyone the governor appoints, of credibility.

Instead of meeting the press out in the rain, this time Reid, D-Nev. and Durbin, invited him into the heart of the Senate's power center — and the press to photograph the three, Burris in the middle, smiling and chit chatting.

Later, Reid and Durbin reported that they thought highly of Burris and that they were merely waiting for procedural matters to be resolved before he could be seated.

"We don't have a problem with him as an individual," Reid said of Burris.

One matter holding up Burris seating, he and Durbin said, was a ruling by the state supreme court expected this week on whether White is legally required to sign Burris' letter of appointment. White has taken the position that Blagojevich, accused of seeking to benefit financially from filling Obama's seat, did not have legal authority to make the appointment.

Additionally, Senate Democrats want sworn testimony that Burris did not promise Blagojevich anything in exchange for the appointment - sort of political insurance in case other news came out after his seating in the Senate.

Then, Reid said, the Senate will almost certainly hold a vote on whether to seat Burris.

The whole process, Senate officials predicted, might take weeks.
But under pressure on Wednesday, Senate Democrats began the process of retreating from their previous hard line against seating Burris.

Knowledgeable Senate officials said the visual embrace of Burris was meant to show the Democrats' acceptance of his personal and professional qualifications, reflecting the expectation among Senate Democrats and Republicans that Burris eventually would be seated.

Burris was on the second day of a bizarre introduction to Capitol Hill. He stood in the rain Tuesday to say he was being denied the seat, and then gave a much more upbeat assessment of prospects Wednesday after his meeting with Reid and Durbin.

Burris was asked about the obviously warmer reception he got the second time around.

"I don't know what pressure they were under, but they, I guess they have to keep the integrity of the Senate," he said. "And they did not want to rush into anything and make a decision where they have to then be trying to reverse that. And that would even be worse."

Asked if he, Reid and Durbin discussed any conditions under which he could be seated, he said that subject "wasn't even on their radar screen."

When a reporter asked whether Burris had any "pay to play" discussions with Blagojevich or his office, Burris joked that couldn't have happened — "because I don't have no money."
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 06:53:22 PM »

I am (once again) ashamed to call myself an American.
From reading a few of your posts on this forum, you sort of remind me of my boss.  He's middle eastern.  He was born in NY but raised in the Middle East (his parents homeland), they brought him and his brother back to the states as teenagers.  Just about everything out of his mouth is anti-western this and anti-American that.  When he found out I was from the south, he started ranting about that too. 

Yet he and his wife are about to build a home in one of the whitest counties in NJ.  His wife is employed as a high flouting executive with an American company.  His wife is international too.  They were both educated in American universities.  I asked him once, since he was so critical of America why not go back to the Middle East to raise his daughter in the custom that his parents raised him?  He looked at me as though I was crazy.  He said there were better opportunities in America and that his country was too violent and unstable.  I just rolled my eyes at his hypocrisy. Roll Eyes 
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 10:16:15 PM »

That's the difference between Black folk and other groups. They come here, make their money, raise their children and create their wealth.

On the other hand, we work for those who come here (you are speaking about your boss aren't you? - just kidding on that one  Grin ), don't buy shit except the bullshit propaganda this country peddles and then criticize those who aren't afraid to take advantage of the opportunities while criticizing the policies of this country. We foolishly believe that if you're here taking advantage of the opportunities, you have to go along with everything this country does. IMO, immigrants play it smart. They're here for the opportunities and not to waive this country's flag. There are many many more immigrants from different ethnic groups who feel the same way as your boss does but simply don't voice their opinions for fear of being used and arrested under some dumb ass draconian law under the patriot act (you know the one we as americans let pass as a part of our politically passive culture?).

Rather than throw out a general 'hypocrisy claim', why don't you pull up some specific positions I've taken so that we can discuss. In the meantime I'm going to continue to exploit the opportunities this country has to offer instead of being exploited.

When I get some time I'm going to post some independent sources that shed light on this israeli-palestinian conflict. If we really understood the history and how the zionists treat the people of Palestine we would be up in arms like we were with the pro-apartheid government of south africa (of which Israel was a strong supporter). We would immediately demand that our country separate all ties with the zionist regime of israel.
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2009, 10:29:11 AM »


Rather than throw out a general 'hypocrisy claim', why don't you pull up some specific positions I've taken so that we can discuss. In the meantime I'm going to continue to exploit the opportunities this country has to offer instead of being exploited.

When I get some time I'm going to post some independent sources that shed light on this israeli-palestinian conflict. If we really understood the history and how the zionists treat the people of Palestine we would be up in arms like we were with the pro-apartheid government of south africa (of which Israel was a strong supporter). We would immediately demand that our country separate all ties with the zionist regime of israel.

Slow your roll Da6cents, cool your jets and quit preaching at me for a minute OK?  I was merely making an observation.  As for the hypocrisy, I was remarking about the hypocritical behavior of my boss.  Which is why I stated:
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I just rolled my eyes at his hypocrisy.   
However I noticed that you added to a statement I made when you quoted me previously.
I really don't get this dude.  Undecided He is bold though
I did not say "Undecided", you added that.

Thanks for your willingness to post Israeli-Palestinian conflict, though I am aware of it and have read about it and I am not uninformed as you assume, just because I made this comment.
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2009, 11:21:56 AM »

These clowns kill me when they use the law to fit their political agenda. Everything that Blagojevich and even Bill Richardson is being investigated for GEORGE BUSH has already done. And the cowards from CONgress and IL did and said nothing  Angry

The people of IL are being denied their constitutional right to representation just like the American people are being denied EVERYTHING (namely the truth).

Well, let's see.. One is the president while the other 2 are governors. Just a tab bit of difference in how you go about handling those situations.

Between this garbage and the bullshit genocide the fake as jews in israel are committing in palestine, I am (once again) ashamed to call myself an American.

Hamas has launched about 6,000 missiles @ Israel since 2005. How do you feel about that? Again, if you're so ashamed of being an America & you feel like America & Israel are so wrong, go join Hamas.  They're a righteous, moral, & respectable government right? Hamas is "fighting for the Palestinians" right?


Again, you're still under the impression that America & Israel are the only active players & are the only one capable of doing anything wrong. Keep ignoring the terrorist offensive which includes using suicide bombers to blow up civilians targets INTENTIONALLY WITHOUT ANY REMORSE WHATSOEVER. No misunderstandings. No intentional mixing of military operations & personnel amongst civilians. Just seeing a bus or coffee shop full or Israelis & blow the shyt up. If you stop comparing America & Israel to your utopian idea (which is an impossible standard) & compare them to the ALTERNATIVE, the choice becomes crystal clear.


Either way, as far as the appointment is concerned, it's going to stand if it gets past the state level. The US congress can only reject Burris based on the candidate being "fit" which is a non issue since he was a former atty general in the state of Illinois. I suspect this will eventually get resolved & he'll be seated. Blagojevich, in his arrogance & well scumbaggery, decided to make the appointment because he knew it would take the heat of him temporarily esp once folx started playing the race again when their was controversy of a black man not being seated. That's politics.

I am (once again) ashamed to call myself an American.
From reading a few of your posts on this forum, you sort of remind me of my boss.  He's middle eastern.  He was born in NY but raised in the Middle East (his parents homeland), they brought him and his brother back to the states as teenagers.  Just about everything out of his mouth is anti-western this and anti-American that.  When he found out I was from the south, he started ranting about that too. 

Yet he and his wife are about to build a home in one of the whitest counties in NJ.  His wife is employed as a high flouting executive with an American company.  His wife is international too.  They were both educated in American universities.  I asked him once, since he was so critical of America why not go back to the Middle East to raise his daughter in the custom that his parents raised him?  He looked at me as though I was crazy.  He said there were better opportunities in America and that his country was too violent and unstable.  I just rolled my eyes at his hypocrisy. Roll Eyes 


And that's exactly what it is, utter hypocrisy. All of us who live here benefit from being here. All of us likely had fairly merger beginnings but the infrastructure, political system, educational system, economic model, relatively stable environments, etc ALLOWS for us to work towards bettering ourselves. It allowed for Oprah, who grew up poor, to become a multi-billionaire. It allowed for Barack Obama, a member of a minority group, to be elected to the highest office in the land. It allows for former slaves to become well paid engineers, politicians, athletes, entertainers, lawyers, etc. It allows for women, who once couldn't vote, to be elected as governors, run for the presidency, be appointed as secretary of state, etc. (btw, for the complainers, please show me where that's happening in the arab world under sharia law).


No one saying that the country is perfect but far too many of us ONLY want to criticize. They ignore the fact that they're sitting up in a house on a laptop eating chili cheese con queso while talkin shyt on the internet. My issue is where is the balance? Where is the talking "up" of America? Where is the praise for the good things that exist here? Again, we're approx 25% of the worlds GDP. Approx 80% of the world lives below our poverty line. I guess people who hate America will say our we're responsible for WORLD poverty too? Or how about the truth which is those countries don't have the economic, political, legal & cultural structure to build a viable society?

Folx who were born here &/or who come here only to constantly criticize (esp our foreign policy against hostile nations) are total hypocrites who wouldn't leave here if to live if we paid them to move to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Palestine, etc. The idea that those countries not having what we have here is some creation of western foreign policy or not being on good terms with America is false. It's primarily a result of the American model versus theocratic/religious ruled societies. Iono about y'all but I'm not trying to go back to the stone ages so in the battle of ideologies, I want the more progressive model to win, period.
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