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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/richard_deitsch/09/13/serena.meltdown/index.html

NEW YORK -- Oracene Williams shook her head at the television screen. It was 10 minutes after all hell had broken loose at the U.S. Open and the mother of Serena Williams found herself nodding in agreement with Kim Clijsters. "I'm like her," Oracene said, pointing at the Belgian who had just defeated her daughter in the semifinals. "I really don't know what happened."

What happened at 10:52 p.m on Saturday night was one of the most bizarre conclusions to a match in U.S. Open history.

After Serena had been called for a foot fault on her second serve to go match point down, the No. 2 seed cursed at the lineswoman who had made the call. The lineswoman then walked over to the chair umpire and reported Serena for verbal abuse. Because she had already received an earlier warning for smashing a racket, Serena was handed an automatic point penalty for a second violation. That gave Clijsters a 6-4, 7-5 victory. The unseeded Belgian will play No. 9 seed Caroline Wozniacki on Sunday night for the U.S. Open championship.

Asked what she said to the line judge, Williams said, "Well, I said something that I guess they gave me a point penalty," she said. "Unfortunately it was on match point. What did I say? You didn't hear?"

Looking at a tape of the incident, including one broadcast on ESPN, it appeared Williams said, "I swear to God, I'm [bleep] taking this ball and I'm shoving it down your [bleep] throat."

In a statement handed out after midnight, tournament referee Brian Earley said, "Serena Williams was assessed a code violation warning for racket abuse after losing the first set 6-4.
"At 5-6, 15-30, Serena was called for a foot fault on her second serve, making the score 15-40. She then yelled something at the line umpire, who reported it to the chair umpire. Based on the report, Serena was assessed a code violation point penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct, ending the match."
Serena said she did not threaten the linesperson. "I've never been in a fight in my whole life, so I don't know why she would have felt threatened." Serena said. "I didn't threaten. I didn't say ... I don't remember anymore to be honest. I was in the moment."

Everyone seemed to be in the moment afterward as calm was in short supply in the hallways below Ashe Stadium. Serena's agent, Jill Smoller, yelled at a cameraman who was shooting footage of Serena before the press conference. Smoller later signaled to a USTA official handing the press conference to cut the question-and-answer session short. To its credit, the USTA conducted a normal postmatch press conference.

Curiously, Serena said she thought she foot-faulted. "I'm pretty sure I did," she said. "If she called a foot fault, she must have seen a foot fault. I mean, she was doing her job. I'm not going to knock her for not doing her job."
Serena was particularly gracious to Clijsters, who has embarked on one of the most remarkable second acts in sports. The 26-year-old Belgian, who ended a 27-month retirement in August, is the first mother to reach a Grand Slam final since Evonne Goolagong Cawley won the 1980 Wimbledon title. She is one of six players to have defeated both Williams sisters in the same tournament and the only player to perform that feat twice (she also did it at the 2002 Tour Championships).
Clijsters is projected to return to the rankings next week for the first time since she was removed on May 14, 2007, following her retirement. If she wins the final, she could break into the top 20. That would equal the achievement of Andrea Jaeger, who set the tour record with the best debut ranking in 1980. After the Williams match, Reuters called her "the poster girl for working mothers."
"She just said, Good luck, I hope you win," Clijsters said when asked what Serena told her after the match. "You know, we always got along well, and I think it's just unfortunate that a battle like that has to end like that. Just unfortunate."
It was a strange end to a long and wet day. The first ball for the Clijsters-Williams match went up at 9:21 p.m. Arthur Ashe Stadium was eerily empty at the beginning of the match. At one point in the second set, SI.com counted just 27 people in the promenade (upper deck).
But Ashe Stadium was a parade compared to the action next door at Louis Armstrong Stadium. Ten minutes after the start of the Clijsters-Williams match, unseeded Yanina Wickmayer hit a backhand into the net against Wozniacki to start their match. The two semifinals were played simultaneously, though there was a distinctly undercard feel for Wozniacki's 6-3, 6-3 win at Armstrong. The lower bowl filled up only after the Williams-Clijsters match concluded. The attendance for the majority of the Wozniacki-Wickmayer match was about 300 people.
Clijsters won the first set in a crisp 35 minutes after Williams netted a backhand on her serve. Williams then slammed her racket down twice and received a warning. It was shocking moment, the first time Williams had lost a set at the Open. She dropped her serve twice in the first set and made 14 unforced errors. Clijsters ended up breaking Williams four times in the match, hitting consistently deep groundstrokes off both wings.
"It's unfortunate that a match that I was playing so well at had to end that way," Clijsters said. "You know, obviously, I'm a little confused about what happened out there, just because I was so focused. I was just trying to win that last point. Things ended up a little bit different than I expected."

Oracene Williams said she did not see the foot fault. She was sitting on the opposite side of the court in the players' box with her daughters (including Venus Williams) and other members of the Williams family. She said she had never seen such a finish involving her daughter but did offer some perspective.
"She should have kept calm," Oracene said of Serena.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2009, 06:22:25 PM »

(Rhetorically speaking) if this was a "meltdown" then what were all those tantrums that John McEnroe had on the court all those years  Huh

For those to old to remember or too young to know what I'm talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v16tKIAddmQ&feature=related

I guess when (Black) women do it it's unacceptable.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2009, 08:15:13 PM »

And how crazy (or better yet, insulting?) is it that the media outlets are using John McEnroe's response to the incident as proof that she did indeed have a meltdown.

Kind of reminds me of how someone can spend years in jail for financing a dog fight but only get probation for beating the $hit out of a black woman.

Black women and men - stay on your toes and fight for each other. Our eagerness to be considered and viewed as 'eveyday Americans' are causing us to fall asleep at the wheel.
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2009, 08:32:12 PM »

Black women and men - stay on your toes and fight for each other. Our eagerness to be considered and viewed as 'eveyday Americans' are causing us to fall asleep at the wheel.
Da6cent's I'm actually surprised that you are taking this stance.  You got on black folks case for supporting Professor Gates.  In that topic thread, you advocated that blacks should adhere to certain behavior particularly when dealing with police. They should realize that there is a double standard out there and conduct themselves accordingly. You knocked everyone who supported Prof. Gate's outburst with the police and his belief that he had a right to question the police same as white folks do, but here you are saying something different in Serena's case.

Again, Gates didn't get arrested for breaking into his own home. IMO, he got arrested for not understanding the rules of engagement between Black men and the police. Fortunately, he only ended up in jail. Many normal black men end up beaten and sometimes dead.
Why then are you outraged and seemingly against Serena being penalized by her outburst on the courts, But In the case of Gates, you blamed him for standing up for himself with police and went as far as to imply that he made a mistake in doing this.  He should realize how to behave?
Yes this is interesting. If this is true and Whalen didn't describe the suspects as Black and However, this still doesn't negate the fact that Gates acted improperly as a Black man in America and our community should take notice. He may have had every right to be upset. But Black men need to know that reacting as Gates did could get them killed. Furthermore, our children need to be taught how to deal with the police.

(Rhetorically speaking) if this was a "meltdown" then what were all those tantrums that John McEnroe had on the court all those years  Huh I guess when (Black) women do it it's unacceptable.
Shouldn't you have applied your same "Gates/police logic" to Serena's situation?  Serena should have known how to comport herself realizing that she is black and therefore is not afforded the same leeway as John McEnroe?  Serena should have conducted herself with the grace and dignity of Arthur Ashe.  Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2009, 08:49:40 PM »

(Rhetorically speaking) if this was a "meltdown" then what were all those tantrums that John McEnroe had on the court all those years  Huh

For those to old to remember or too young to know what I'm talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v16tKIAddmQ&feature=related

I guess when (Black) women do it it's unacceptable.

I know all about John McEnroe and Ile Nastase and some others.  No one said their conduct was acceptable - in fact I've seen many reports and interviews to the contrary. No one said anything about them because the incident last night was not about them.  I guess just because she's black the news shouldn't have reported it and she should get a parade on Park Avenue.  Well, it was a public tennis event, televised to millions, so hard to hide it. 

But even Serena's own mother said she was out of line.  You gonna disagree with her??  She is too good a tennis player and celebrity to be acting out like some ghetto thug.  A lot of young black girls (and believe it or not a lot of young white girls) look up to her.  I give her props for her skills, but not for her conduct last night. 

  Serena should have conducted herself with the grace and dignity of Arthur Ashe.  Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2009, 01:47:20 PM »

Meltdown, tantrum, tirade, whatever.
 
Serena has been fined $10,000 and more penalties are possible.  (btw John McEnroe was fined and disciplined many times for his conduct.)  I hope the fine is the end of it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slug=ro-serenafine091309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2009, 03:54:02 PM »

"Serena Williams 2009 US Open Threats and Ejection"

Here are the final 2 minutes of the match with the U.S. Open with Serena is ejected.  That was a lousy call though.  The line referee called a foot fault on a match point and from what I understand you don't make a call like that.  Serena isn't known for keeping her cool either. (She's more like the Daddy Williams) whereas Venus is more like the Mommy Williams.  I remember when the two first played against each other in Wimbledon and Venus won and Serena was visibly upset by it. 

I didn't hear Serena threaten to kill that asian woman but telling someone you are going to cram a tennis ball down their throat is in effect the same thing and sent that woman running.  I wish Serena could have collected herself before confronting that woman the way she did.  Maybe she could have contested the call because on the instant replay I didn't see her foot cross the line before she hit the ball over.  I think the call was faulty.  That should be talked about too.  Serena has been in the game long enough to show more professionalism than she did.  I saw Venus's eyes buldge when she heard the call and saw her sister go off.  Wow, I wish Serena could have handled herself better.  That didn't look good at all.   Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2009, 04:49:24 PM »

Good comments, devine.  I don't know about the technicalities of the foot thing - the video did show her foot over the line right after the serve.  From what I understand she was also warned earlier for slamming her racket.  I didn't watch the match - just the coverage about it.  In one clip it was clear that she said "I outta cram this f'in ball down your f'in throat".  Not good.

I didn't like it that Serena later the same day said she 'didn't remember' what she said.   Roll Eyes  She could have said "I lost my cool, it happens". 
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2009, 05:39:16 PM »

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Da6cent's I'm actually surprised that you are taking this stance.  You got on black folks case for supporting Professor Gates.  In that topic thread, you advocated that blacks should adhere to certain behavior particularly when dealing with police. They should realize that there is a double standard out there and conduct themselves accordingly. You knocked everyone who supported Prof. Gate's outburst with the police and his belief that he had a right to question the police same as white folks do, but here you are saying something different in Serena's case.

Nope. I only felt that Black folx should adhere to certain behavior when dealing with the police. No other situation was mentioned. That's because, unlike other situations, exhibiting the wrong behavior when dealing with the police can get you killed. I do not hold the same position when playing a sport. That's because your adrenaline is flowing while you're being competative. However, you still have to maintain a certain level of control and focus. So Yes Serena was wrong but my points for bringing up the double standard was (1) John McEnroe exhibited worse behavior, even getting violent with his tenant racket yet made millions (and still continues to do so) from it. (2) They have the gall to use him of all people to condemn Serena.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2009, 06:54:12 PM »

You know, I am not condoning her behavior and temporary loss of control, but in the heat of the moment I do understand when a judge's call can mean the match.  Nevertheless, I've heard reports that they are trying to Michael Vick her - not just fine and suspend her, but also to potentially BAN her from the sport!

She was wrong, she lost control... she embarrassed herself, her family and tennis fans with that outburst, but this was a one-time, first-time event that must be put in proper context
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2009, 07:52:23 PM »

You know, I am not condoning her behavior and temporary loss of control, but in the heat of the moment I do understand when a judge's call can mean the match.  Nevertheless, I've heard reports that they are trying to Michael Vick her - not just fine and suspend her, but also to potentially BAN her from the sport!She was wrong, she lost control... she embarrassed herself, her family and tennis fans with that outburst, but this was a one-time, first-time event that must be put in proper context
Now that is going to far!  If they do that then they would be opening themselves up to a can of worms and they, meaning the tennis folks/officials/association (not the players) don’t want to go there.  Foot faults are not called consistently across the board in tournaments on (ALL levels).  And when it comes to match point, it is usually at the discretion of the line referee to call a foot fault and a lot of times they don’t.  I didn’t see Serena’s foot cross the line during the serve. (It’s ok that her foot crossed the line after she made the serve) but not while carrying out the serve.

There is no need for them to come down so harshly on Serena for her behavior I agree.  This is a one-off for her.  It was match point, the stakes were high.  Serena had already lost a crucial point earlier when she bashed her tennis racquet.  She couldn’t afford any more penalities.  And then for the referee call a trifling petty call, something that is usually understood that that at match point in the game referees, sort of let that go, sent her over the edge.  Tennis players hate foot fault calls though.  It's the bane of their existence (sort of like traveling in basket ball).

Why have a player lose a game over a small techie matter like that?  You’d rather they lose or win a game actually playing a set rather than on a technicality and a trivial one like a foot fault call.  That referee didn’t know that I guess. I mean technically she could call it, but it’s understood that you don’t call for that at match point. 

I can understand Serena was furious but to ban her like they are talking about doing would be going way too far and I don’t think they’d want to go there.  Not unless they are prepared to explain (a) why the foot fault rule is “sometimey in being called”  and (b) why they let some players get away with acting certain ways on the court and come down hard on others. 

I disagree with them wanting to Michael Vick her.  Let it go at the fine and move on!!
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2009, 01:56:34 PM »

Serena on Good Morning America today.  She has a book coming out; I enjoyed the interview.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=8578251
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